safety training

[ukprometheus]

Is there any kind of basic safety training that can be done before getting on the water. and no one shoot me for asking.

[C2 RIBS]

No need for shooting you, great question and the answer is yes and loads of our great trade members I hope will be along shortly to offer Powerboat courses, covering basics through to one to one training. PB2 course I suggest would be a great start point

[tim griffin]

What sort of safety training do you want
eg how to drive the boat learn about rules of the road basic navigation
If yes then consider the RYA Powerboat Level 2 course .If you just want basic navigation the the Essential Navigation and Seamanship course could be for you I along with 80 other schools offer this online
I can offer these to you or if the Isle of Wight is to far for the practical courses go on the RYA website
RYA to find a school near you.
Happy New Year
Tim

[ukprometheus]

well to be honest i have no idea what kind of safety training thats why i asked
not really sure whats on offer, how not to drown my arse would be a great start

[SPR]

I would recommend;

VHF radio course
sea survival course
RYA first aid course

these ate shore based although sea survival is pool based and fun!

The above should hold you in good stead... I have done sea safety talks at local sailing clubs, if you can find s sailing club to join they have a wealth of knowledge too...

S.

[ukprometheus]

Originally Posted by SPR

I would recommend;

VHF radio course
sea survival course
RYA first aid course

these ate shore based although sea survival is pool based and fun!

The above should hold you in good stead... I have done sea safety talks at local sailing clubs, if you can find s sailing club to join they have a wealth of knowledge too...

S.

im glad someone mentioned a radio course, i wasn't planning to go too far from shore and was just going to carry my mobile with me in a small pelicase with some spares.
do i really need a radio ????? its only a small 3.1 sib for now

[EnglishLes]

I did my PB2 course late September after booking at the boat show. This was in Southampton just under the concrete toll bridge. Well worth the money (£180 - discounted for booking at the book show). Only 3 students.

We covered navigation (charts & tide tables), safety equipment, driving(tiller & console, slow & fast), docking, towing, turning round in a tight space, man over board, rules of the road, basic checking before going out, trailer towing. All at a basic level of course but enough to answer your question of

"well to be honest i have no idea what kind of safety training thats why i asked
not really sure whats on offer, how not to drown my arse would be a great start"

[SPR]

a VHF radio , I would be the first big of electronics I buy for a boat,

I bought my first navico radio, when I was 19 at cost £500 eek - only proof model back in those days... nice big grey radio.


You pic up a good VHF radio for most £150 ...

Rumours go that icom has a new radio being released at London boat show - which will have DSC.

A VHF radio, means

1) other boaters can here you, it's an open system unlike a mobile phone that only 1 person can hear you.

2) Its designed for the environment

3) They can use directional finding to find you.

Mobiles are good, and are handy but personally will not go out on water without my handheld round my neck, and I have fixed radio on boat!

Powetboat 2 covers everything, but not in depth detail, and we recommend you do the other courses to enhance your knowledge.


regards

D.

[ukprometheus]

whats DSC ??

[SPR]

Sorry - it's digital selective calling, it adds nice features to the radio.

The main advantage is

the red button when pressed will transmit your time, boat ID and position if connected to gps. to coastguard on pressing of said red button.

It has a lot of neat features but I leave that for another day! since I am posting from iPhone!

[ukprometheus]

AHH thanks SPR i would only be able to carry a handheld as im sure there is not going to be a lot of room a SIB i have just been checking out prices online and there not all that expensive.

i was also going to use the phone for GPS, Navionics seems to be the best app for that.
may never need it but for fishing the GPS could be handy

[CJL]

Don't bother with the sea survival course unless you have plans to go off across the channel or something mad like that!

Any first aid course will do by the way, not just the RYA one!

A basic how an outboard works book/course might be a plan

Chris

[SPR]

the sea survival IMHO is very good course, it gave me the opportunity to be in a safe environment to test my life jacket and give me confidence....

I would like to see a non-RYA course , covering the sea related topics in good detail- ESP the part of getting medical help via VHF radio.


if the other course provider, if you were referring to was STCW 95 ROUTE is valid, but the main stream first aid providers don't cover the marine stuff in great details....IMHO

S.

[ukprometheus]

cant say i have any plans or wish to go crossing the channel in a small sib and i have a strong mechanical understanding as my father was a mechanic so was born with a spanner in my hand

[Max...]

If you are new to going out on the sea in anything other than your swimming trunks (as you obviously are from the question and your answers) then PB2 is *essential* before you even go near the water and as others have said (and PB2 will tell you) a VHF radio is a must and so therfore is the VHF radio course. From these two courses you will learn all the basics and valuable safety to get you started.

[NeilH]

As others have said the PB2 is probably the place to start as it covers all aspects. I then did VHF, first aid, safety boat (because I do dinghy sailing support) and sea survival. Sea survival was fun but as I don't own a liferaft I just have to hope there is one floating by when I need it!

These courses are great but also try and persuade friends with boating experience to come out with you - you won't experience everything on the course and real life is different to the theory.

Cheers
Neil

[Jamesg514]

Originally Posted by SPR

I would like to see a non-RYA course , covering the sea related topics in good detail- ESP the part of getting medical help via VHF radio.


if the other course provider, if you were referring to was STCW 95 ROUTE is valid, but the main stream first aid providers don't cover the marine stuff in great details....IMHO

S.

I think any first aid course is better than nothing. But IMHO Everyone should Know a Basic level a first aid.

Does it really matter if you get correct Radio protocol as long as all the information is across your doing a good enough job.
Even with the RYA course telling you how to get help using a VHF how many people actually listen and would be able to repeat it when needed anyway.

I teach 2-3 first aid courses a week and I don’t think I get it 100% correct in a real situation, if you think you do your dreaming, doing something is better than doing nothing, and if you’ve got a VHF aboard the chances are somebody is trained in correct radio protocol anyway.


PB2 as a start.

[SPR]

Originally Posted by ukprometheus

Is there any kind of basic safety training that can be done before getting on the water......

Powerboat 2 Is well recommended! but read the OP question...,

Any First Aid course is better than none, but if you are going to choose one over another and your a boater, - RYA First Aid Course is my recommendation. Designed by Boaters/MCA/HSE for boaters.

As to VHF it's is law you need your operators licence , this can be done by sitting the exam direct, but strongly suggest doing the full course.

Yes - you might not get it right every time, but the more your train practice, the better chance you will get it right.

Hence the RNLI are one of the best rescue organisations in world.

Regards

S.