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03 August 2019, 23:27
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Boat
Make: Valiant V-450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Etec 40
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 140
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P.s yeah I done it all in my living room. Lol. She's going nuts.
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04 August 2019, 00:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Originally Posted by Locozodiac
If a Sib will be your first watercraft, why don't you go straight to a medium size Rib. Usually you go from a Sib to a Rib, after that move won't like Sibs any more...
Happy Boating
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Conversely, after 30+ years of RIB ownership, I’m researching my first SIB purchase.
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04 August 2019, 05:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Make: Ranieri 15
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF50
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,281
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Conversely, after 30+ years of RIB ownership, I’m researching my first SIB purchase.
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Sure but not as a replacement.
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04 August 2019, 07:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,996
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>>> most likely made a mistake here... I took the offer of the zodiac nautic 325.
It can't be a mistake even if you end upgrading in size later on. The boat would be around £1500 to replace new and used the outboard alone would make around £500 on Ebay plus you've got the wheels, elec pumps etc. So as I said previously it's a great deal to get started.
Will seem quite stable and roomy after a kayak too.
Boat doesn't look that old... last digits of the serial number plate on the outside of the transom will tell you.
Does the 12v pump have the ability to take the air floor to full pressure? For decent performance this is important and ideally you should re-check pressures once it's been on the water a few mins.
Be interesting to hear how your first trip outside the living room goes.
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04 August 2019, 08:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Boat
Make: Valiant V-450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Etec 40
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 140
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Thanks fenlander
One of your points was gonna be my next question. Regarding pressure side tubes and front are saying 3psi
Air floor 11psi
Now I think in my reading from this site that a pressure gauge can be obtained, but I'm not seeing in my simple head how this would work, cause these valves are 1 way, i.e like how the Boston valves worked on our kayaks. Or am I missing something?
I've not tried to fully inflate bit the 240 certainly does the job, not tried the others. But foot pump does work as does the 12 volt.
I'll check the plate on the transom for age once I unroll it and roll up again correctly. As per YouTube video. Best learning place on the planet. Lol.
Ideally I'd love to get out on it today just for a little potter about. But it's pouring down ATM. Hopefully it stops. There again it's only rain. Used to getting a bit wet on the kayak.
Given that I have no pressure gauge is there a rough estimate as to how hard the sides should be by touch
And more so how hard the air floor should be? Until I get the gauge.
Or is guessing not recommended?
Thanks again for all advice
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04 August 2019, 09:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,124
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Very nice boat and excellent place to blow it up. I hope you have many hours of enjoyment using it
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04 August 2019, 09:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scomich
Thanks fenlander
One of your points was gonna be my next question. Regarding pressure side tubes and front are saying 3psi
Air floor 11psi
Now I think in my reading from this site that a pressure gauge can be obtained, but I'm not seeing in my simple head how this would work, cause these valves are 1 way, i.e like how the Boston valves worked on our kayaks. Or am I missing something?
I've not tried to fully inflate bit the 240 certainly does the job, not tried the others. But foot pump does work as does the 12 volt.
I'll check the plate on the transom for age once I unroll it and roll up again correctly. As per YouTube video. Best learning place on the planet. Lol.
Ideally I'd love to get out on it today just for a little potter about. But it's pouring down ATM. Hopefully it stops. There again it's only rain. Used to getting a bit wet on the kayak.
Given that I have no pressure gauge is there a rough estimate as to how hard the sides should be by touch
And more so how hard the air floor should be? Until I get the gauge.
Or is guessing not recommended?
Thanks again for all advice
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The pressure in the main tubes is not the issue. Just pump those up until they feel quite stiff. If you slap them with your hand they should ring a little. If the main tubes are a little under pressure that will not matter.
With the Air floor 11 psi is a lot and this is important although nothing will break if it is under and with your motor £6hp) you will most likely not get on the plane and this is when the pressure in the floor is more important.
If there is a Decathlon anywhere near you or a tent shop they usually sell nice pumps with built in pressure gauges that go to 11 psi something like this
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/hp-sup-p...d_8387655.html
or their excellent Electric one for £40.
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/0-15-psi...d_8387582.html
You will need a battery for this one
Make sure the ends fit your valves.
You could go out and buy it in the rain and when you return the sun might be out
Exciting times
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04 August 2019, 09:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
If a Sib will be your first watercraft, why don't you go straight to a medium size Rib. Usually you go from a Sib to a Rib, after that move won't like Sibs any more...
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I disagree I have Ribs, Solid Speed boats and sports cruisers and I still enjoy my Sib...… Horses for courses
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04 August 2019, 09:30
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Boat
Make: Valiant V-450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Etec 40
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 140
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Brill we do have a decathlon in Edinburgh not to far away either.
Mission for today sorted. Now I just need this rain to go.
Thanks again.
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04 August 2019, 09:34
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,996
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>>> pressure gauge can be obtained, but I'm not seeing in my simple head how this would work...
Some stand-alone gauges have a "tab" that opens the valve a little as you put them on to get an instant reading. However even if they don't the Zodiac valves should let by a little (the caps are the final seal) so the gauge will usually give a reading after a few seconds.
Don't any of the pumps have a gauge?
We've had decades of Scottish holidays... many with a SIB or other boat... and came to the conclusion rain was part of the mix north of the border!
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04 August 2019, 09:35
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Boat
Make: Valiant V-450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Etec 40
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 140
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Just unrolled in livingroom again thank god she's out today.
Goiing by the plate is a 2017.
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04 August 2019, 09:38
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,996
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2017... Well then that's a staggering bargain.
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04 August 2019, 09:39
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,996
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Anyway despite my approval of rain it's sunny here so just off to get the prop wet.
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04 August 2019, 09:43
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Boat
Make: Valiant V-450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Etec 40
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 140
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But correct me if I'm wrong . This is the plate.
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04 August 2019, 09:49
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,996
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I forget exactly but it's something like the last 4 digits are month and year of build and model year so it could be a 2017 model built in 2016... or vice versa. But either way still a great deal.
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04 August 2019, 10:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Same old question which sib
Quote:
Originally Posted by Limecc
Sure but not as a replacement.
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True, but when I’m on tour with the SIB, I won’t have the RIB with me, so it’s SIB or nothing. So I’ve effectively moved from RIB to SIB.
I think the 2 styles of craft have very different advantages & disadvantages. They suit different purposes imo.
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04 August 2019, 10:50
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Humber Ocean Pro
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 200HP
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 999
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I think the 2 styles of craft have very different advantages & disadvantages. They suit different purposes imo.
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Yep, totally true [emoji106]
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04 August 2019, 10:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
True, but when I’m on tour with the SIB, I won’t have the RIB with me, so it’s SIB or nothing. So I’ve effectively moved from RIB to SIB.
I think the 2 styles of craft have very different advantages & disadvantages. They suit different purposes imo.
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You got something right
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04 August 2019, 14:39
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 198
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
you need to buy a flask!
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It would have to be a big flask to provide some shelter.
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04 August 2019, 14:46
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
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:-) a dry suit and gecko make a huge difference...
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