Scary Stuff

kaman · 07 August 2016, 22:07

My mate sent me a link after hearing about a dramatic rescue from the sea where we often go fishing.
Only the other week we were fishing off Lendal Foot along the coast towards Girvan and Ballantrae as well as going to the small island of Ailsa Craig which is a 10 mile open sea crossing.
Lovely day out with my mate and his 9 year old son in the Honwave T3.8.*
Reading this article and watching the video link sent sent a shiver down my spine.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-...-west-37002200

Can't believe they went out without a VHF and not enough life jaickets onboard.
Could have had a very different ending

kaman · 07 August 2016, 22:25

Here's the video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=uLfK3YVAAOw

paddlers · 08 August 2016, 08:04

We're up in Carradale on Kintyre and the site owner Colin was showing me the video as the people have relatives here .Any ideas how it sank.

I haven't even put my boat in yet as it's blowing a bit, hopefully today.

Pikey Dave · 08 August 2016, 14:38

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Originally Posted by paddlers

......Any ideas how it sank........

It filled with water by all accounts😏

Lions led by donkeys

Fenlander · 08 August 2016, 15:14

Hope you managed to get out Paddlers. We are only 20mls or so north of you as the crow flies and Sunday was so wild we didn't even manage to set the boat up... but did so today and despite some remaining squally gusts are just off out for the second time.

paddlers · 08 August 2016, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

It filled with water by all accounts😏

Lions led by donkeys

Might have known PD !!!

Got the hardboat in today & the lads are out now 7-45 pm fishing for mackeral. Still gusty but at least the suns shining .

willk · 08 August 2016, 20:02

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Originally Posted by paddlers

Might have known PD !!!

It's how they generally do it

That said, Pikey is almost as cryptic as gaRfiE in his assessments: There's not much to go wrong on a Sheltie type boat - unlikely it cracked open like an egg (but possible if it hit a solid floating object) and they generally don't have through hull fittings. They DO tend to have tansom wash boards (which get forgotten or removed due to large engines) and are frequently crewed by very large lads carrying trays of beer. Throw in a bit of a sea and an engine issue and you're taking water. Doesn't take much.

Which is kinda why I have a floaty boaty

jambo · 09 August 2016, 07:34

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Originally Posted by Fenlander

Hope you managed to get out Paddlers. We are only 20mls or so north of you as the crow flies and Sunday was so wild we didn't even manage to set the boat up... but did so today and despite some remaining squally gusts are just off out for the second time.

Yep I saw you sneaking into the dingy finger. Well done going out for second trip. Yes Sunday was hellish. Did you see my mates boat on the shore at Kentalllen his strop severed with the storm and the big blue on the running line just in front of your cottage was flooded down both engines u/s. Argyll summers !! B

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jonp · 09 August 2016, 08:28

The water looked pretty good, hardly rough seas. Does anyone know why the boat sank, was it just a simple case of leaving the bangs out?

Jon

Fenlander · 09 August 2016, 09:22

>>>Yep I saw you sneaking into the dingy finger.

Oh dear... are we that distinctive? I'll PM you.

>>>Argyll summers !!

I know... what was it about a force 8 on Sunday with torrential rain... Monday morning out on the water some fierce gusts almost taking my hat... then Monday afternoon as below...

The Gurnard · 09 August 2016, 09:50

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Originally Posted by jonp

The water looked pretty good, hardly rough seas. Does anyone know why the boat sank, was it just a simple case of leaving the bangs out?

Jon

Thats the problem with videos or photographing water Jonp...often waves dont look big ..forecast for the weekend from met office was described as "Unseasonable strong winds" and also issued a weather warning as such. I checked weather on Friday for weekend boating but the area had 25 to 50 mph winds showing.. so I stayed at home.

Shetland boats are generally quite seaworthy .. so.. Im only assuming this ..but if it went round the Ailsa Craig to look at the gannet colony .. Im aware from experience of the island..that although there is a good depth round most of it..there are nasty reefs off the north and also the south west..which extend far out..just under the surface ..as shown in the photo..that is reef and not reflections in the foreground.. it goes at least twice as far off shore as this.

Perhaps the swell dumped it on the reef and did crack its bottom ? Last time I was there ..the Tour Boat from Girvan had a RIB on tow ...its prop had hit the reef...and no aux engine. I think its quit a common happening ?

Folks go close to see the gannets.. as its one of the biggest colonies in Europe. Puffins and shearwaters too. Then hit the reef..it just suddenly appears..if you are lucky to see it.

The reef

The gannets

Jambo..Im in Tayvallich tomorrow meeting Fenlander..if you are around..be good to meet you too

jambo · 09 August 2016, 13:52

Hi G have spoken to David so see you tomorrow.
Back to the rescue. I've talked to my contacts at Girvan who advised only three lj's for five pax. Launched from Girvan early morning to fish. No info on why it sank.

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paddlers · 09 August 2016, 14:17

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Originally Posted by jambo

Hi G have spoken to David so see you tomorrow.
Back to the rescue. I've talked to my contacts at Girvan who advised only three lj's for five pax. Launched from Girvan early morning to fish. No info on why it sank.

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PD said it filled with water ( Oh FFS I'm at it now) !!

It went down pretty quickly on the video so I'm assuming it was a biggish hole through the hull ?

jambo · 09 August 2016, 14:19

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Originally Posted by paddlers

PD said it filled with water ( Oh FFS I'm at it now) !!

It went down pretty quickly on the video so I'm assuming it was a biggish hole through the hull ?

Can't say as the rescued went straight from chopper to their car!!

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The Gurnard · 09 August 2016, 14:32

I wouldn’t know ..but would imagine it was afloat for a while after the call was put out as the rescue party have a bit to travel to get there.

It illustrates the importance of having good buoyancy on hardshells. I know I always made sure I had enough on board my hardshells to keep them afloat if swamped. Inflatable rollers played more parts in my life that rolling boats up shores ..as did other inflatable bags kept blown up under thwarts or in cuddies etc

Im glad all were saved ..that is the main thing

What scares me seeing the amount of crap boats for sale on places like gumtree ..totally unseaworthy stuff.. cheap as chips .. so folks that don’t know boats think they are getting a bargain for their holidays. Im not saying that is the case here though.. just a general comment.

Good Jambo..will see you tomorrow.. my F Rib is in the car waiting an early start to get there