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12 January 2021, 11:03
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Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton
Make: sunsport
Length: 3m +
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Just checking ;-)
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12 January 2021, 12:10
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Make: Elling kB 350
Length: 3m +
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Oldman 2. I had a reply from them.
Hi,
Unfortunately, cause of Covid-19 we could not send to UK. Except you arange transport yourself.
No luck I’m afraid as I don’t have a clue how to arrange a delivery from there.
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12 January 2021, 12:24
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Make: Elling kB 350
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I asked them why and they say it’s because of COVID and Brexit the logistic company’s do not want to ship to U.K.
I hope all foreign companies are not going to treat us the same.
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12 January 2021, 15:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Originally Posted by Tel1965
I had a look at the boatstogo.com website, I’m sure I’ve looked at that before. Although it gives a lot of very helpful tips it doesn’t actually give a checklist of the procedures to follow not just inflating the boat but attaching the outboard and starting up. As sibfisher said there’s an awful lot to take in in a short time when at the shop. To experienced sibbers setting up and shutting down is a piece of cake to them, but, for total newbies it seems a daunting task to make sure you have everything right. That’s why I thought it’d be very helpful to all newbies to have a checklist to follow. As with everything in life, it’s easy when you know how, but hard if you don’t.
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We bought our first SIB last year, we assembled/dismantled several times in the garden before venturing out in anger. Basically you have all the bits in the car/trailer/van & when the transport is empty the boat is built. Take your time & don’t get flustered by onlookers/kids/weather etc. If you build her up in the garden at leisure, take notes & make yourself a checklist.
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12 January 2021, 15:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton
Make: sunsport
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury 9.9
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Excel are based in Brum have you checked their sibs out.
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12 January 2021, 15:14
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Country: UK - England
Make: Elling kB 350
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My intention is to inflate and deflate and take the outboard on and off in the garden many times before I take it out on the water. Hopefully that’ll save me some embarrassment.
Yes I had a look at excel, went to their showroom and had a chat with terry. What puts me off the excel is the weight of it. It doesn’t come with any Borika mounts either. Whereas the Elling comes with 9 mounts already fitted.
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12 January 2021, 18:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
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I wouldn't over stress it. At it's most basic you just blow up the boat... drop on the outboard... then add water and go. All the rest comes easily really.
You will make it much easier if buying the Elling or similar with an air floor.
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14 January 2021, 12:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London
Boat name: Pip
Make: Excel Volante 330
Length: under 3m
Engine: Suzuki DF6A
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 192
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If you want a laugh...
I wanted to make a way for younger family members to feel involved when setting up, so I made some “checklists” on a key ring so they can bark orders at me and have some faux responsibility.
It was actually quite useful...
Looking forward to hearing what I’ve missed!!
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14 January 2021, 12:59
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Make: Elling kB 350
Length: 3m +
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What a hero. That’s exactly what I wanted. Many thanks from me and I’m sure many other newbies.
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14 January 2021, 13:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton
Make: sunsport
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury 9.9
Join Date: Oct 2020
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I cant see it very well on my phone will look at it on my laptop but as tel said it looks ideal, cheers
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14 January 2021, 13:04
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Country: UK - England
Make: Elling kB 350
Length: 3m +
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14 January 2021, 14:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London
Boat name: Pip
Make: Excel Volante 330
Length: under 3m
Engine: Suzuki DF6A
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 192
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Set up and shut down procedures
Hope it’s useful!
Forgive the spelling, irregular use of Motor and Engine, and the odd repeated instruction. Was a quick project, might get them etched into plastic fobs or cards like these, along with radio & first aid cheat sheets etc
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14 January 2021, 14:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton
Make: sunsport
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury 9.9
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Thanks
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14 January 2021, 14:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton
Make: sunsport
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury 9.9
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Thanks I can see them now
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14 January 2021, 15:08
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Country: UK - England
Make: Elling kB 350
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Oct 2020
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I’ll find them very useful. Maybe a couple of things I won’t need to do and a couple more I would need to do. But all in all they are great.
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14 January 2021, 18:03
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Scotland
Boat name: Clyde adventurer
Make: Humber
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Merc 150 4str
Join Date: May 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkinking
If you want a laugh...
I wanted to make a way for younger family members to feel involved when setting up, so I made some “checklists” on a key ring so they can bark orders at me and have some faux responsibility.
It was actually quite useful...
Looking forward to hearing what I’ve missed!!
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They’re pretty good and a great way to get folk involved, only thing that shouts out to me is test kill cord. Personally i do on trailer prelaunch. Fire up pull kill cord immediately(before folk pipe up yes I know it’s ‘dry’ and no outboards were harmed in the making of this comment). It also gives a wee bit of confidence that it’ll fire straight up once wet, no flat batteries etc[emoji4]
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14 January 2021, 18:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Lincolnshire
Boat name: Mousetrap
Make: Zodiac Cadet 310S
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 4 stroke 9.9
Join Date: Sep 2014
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I'm deliberately not going to tell you my procedure because you may have different needs or priorities. However, I will tell you how I developed it — and I did the same with my sailing dinghy:
1) I set it up and took it down on the drive at home a couple of times to get used to it.
2) I then did it slowly, writing down each step of the way as I did it.
3) Then I did it, following the instructions in the exact order I'd written them.
4) Then I made any necessary changes and clarifications.
After that, I kept a log of every trip. If I came across a problem, or found a better way of doing something, I included it in the log.
This way, I developed a process that works for me and my boat in the conditions and places I go boating in.
Many trips later, of course, I do it on autopilot, but being methodical at the start was worthwhile.
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14 January 2021, 18:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mar 60/20/3.5/Hon2.3
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by Iankristy
only thing that shouts out to me is test kill cord. Personally i do on trailer prelaunch. Fire up pull kill cord immediately(before folk pipe up yes I know it’s ‘dry’ and no outboards were harmed in the making of this comment)[emoji4]
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Ha Ha! Testing the kill cord this way is gonna fook your impellers long term.
Comprehensive list from the op. Perhaps worth noting to top up toob/keel/air floor pressures after 20 mins or so on the water for max performance.
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15 January 2021, 07:07
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Scotland
Boat name: Clyde adventurer
Make: Humber
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Merc 150 4str
Join Date: May 2015
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Originally Posted by chipko
Ha Ha! Testing the kill cord this way is gonna fook your impellers long term.
Comprehensive list from the op. Perhaps worth noting to top up toob/keel/air floor pressures after 20 mins or so on the water for max performance.
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Nah a second will have no impact and I’ll launch my boat safely[emoji3]
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15 January 2021, 10:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London
Boat name: Pip
Make: Excel Volante 330
Length: under 3m
Engine: Suzuki DF6A
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 192
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Set up and shut down procedures
Good point folks, checking that removing the kill cord actually stops the motor is definitely absolutely crucial!
I test kill cord after warm up while still tied up, I’ll add that to my list.
Like anything, everyone has their own methods but I cannot endorse running your engine dry for anyone new to outboards, many use this forum as a first stop for advice.
Plus I wouldn’t take the risk an exposed prop spinning with little people and animals around the slipway in the context of my use.
Test the motor thoroughly at home in a bucket or with flush hose attached before your trip. Test thoroughly after launch but before you set off. Let it warm up and check for other issues you wouldn’t want an hour into your trip (cooling working okay, fuel leaks, electrics working, etc)
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