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08 June 2016, 08:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Huddersfield
Make: Yamaha
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 8hp Petrol
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 137
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SIB Insurance - Compulsory?
Hi All
I'm about to get cracking with my 3.1m Yam and 8hp outboard. I've been looking round at insurance, in particular 3rd party cover. However, in the past (admittedly getting on for 20 years ago) we never bothered with any kind of insurance for a dinghy and 4hp outboard. What 's the situation now? Is it compulsory to have such 3rd party insurance? I'm assuming it depends on the location you're launching from. However, I can see the sense in it, especially in these compensation driven times.
Anyone recommend any insurers that will cover a 3.1 Yamaha inflatable and 8hp engine without extracting blood from me?
Many thanks
Ian
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08 June 2016, 08:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridge
Boat name: SIBylle
Make: Honda Honwave
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda BF20
MMSI: 235915576
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 431
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English and possibly Welsh inland waterways require insurance, Scottish and the great wide ocean do not... ish/in general... but someone will likely correct me if I'm wrong...
I'm with Craftinsure, was about £60
English/Welsh inland waterways also usually require a permit.
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08 June 2016, 09:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,493
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Not compulsory for most use but what else are you going to do if a swimmer pops up in front of you and you chop his leg off?
As above many of us on here use Craftinsure.
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08 June 2016, 09:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridge
Boat name: SIBylle
Make: Honda Honwave
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda BF20
MMSI: 235915576
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 431
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Originally Posted by Max...
Not compulsory for most use
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When I was inquiring about river/lake licenses in England they all asked me for proof of insurance - maybe I was unlucky, but they did all state a requirement. (as well as boat safety which we don't qualify for)
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08 June 2016, 09:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Ahh, sorry - presuming that most use their boats at sea. As you say many rivers and lakes will require it as do some slipways regardless.
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08 June 2016, 10:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Ian like others above and many more sibbers I use Craftinsure online. For your outfit it may just be under £50 which seems fair value to me.
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08 June 2016, 10:50
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Country: UK - England
Town: Huddersfield
Make: Yamaha
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 8hp Petrol
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
Ian like others above and many more sibbers I use Craftinsure online. For your outfit it may just be under £50 which seems fair value to me.
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Absolutely right Fenlander 49 quid was their quote.
Gentlemen, as ever I'm grateful for your help. I'll get sorted with Craftinsure .
One last thing. Do Craftinsure allow you to purchase online and print documents off etc?
Thanks again all.
Ian
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08 June 2016, 11:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
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i use porthcawl £60 for £6,000 cover.
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08 June 2016, 12:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucester
Boat name: pain
Make: c craft
Length: 4m +
Engine: mariner, seagull, to
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 214
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Using the upper non tidal Thames you have to fill in licence form and agree that you have insurance, they did not ask for proof or any policy number
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08 June 2016, 12:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorkshire
Make: Avon
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp Mercury 4st
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I'm just sorting a new 30 day explorer from the Canals and Rivers Trust. They can only be bought online now and the form requires an insurance company name and policy number before it advances to the next stage of purchase.
So they have now stitched up any loopholes to get around not being insured.
All of the Yorkshire coast 'official' launch points need to see your insurance before letting to out, so unless you can find a nice easy launch point that suits your needs then you are scuppered again.
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08 June 2016, 12:51
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,925
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Ian part of the Craftinsure saving is that you do it all online and print your own docs. I happen to have a cheap laminator so laminate a copy of the cert and carry it with me.
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08 June 2016, 19:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
Ian part of the Craftinsure saving is that you do it all online and print your own docs. I happen to have a cheap laminator so laminate a copy of the cert and carry it with me.
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me too in the elasticacted pocket on the console
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08 June 2016, 19:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Isle of Wight mostly
Make: Regal
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercruiser
MMSI: 235911246
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 188
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No brainer really at circa £50, especially as the litigious playing field involving 3rd party accidents has moved on significantly over the last 20 yrs you reference.
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08 June 2016, 19:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,767
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For a wee boat like that with a small motor you can get 3rd party only cover for about £20.
https://www.newtoncrum.com/Insurance/Powercraft
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08 June 2016, 21:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Huddersfield
Make: Yamaha
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 8hp Petrol
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
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Thanks for that info. Had a look but the propsal form asked if the craft could exceed 12 knots. My guess is it will easily do so with one adult aboard, probably with two also.
I'll look into it, but think I'll go for a fully comp. policy, rather than just the 3rd party cover..
Thanks as ever chaps, your advice and thoughts are much appreciated.
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