Slipway charges

Sibfun · 31 January 2018, 19:13

Can someone please help,I’ve just read that if I want to launch my 4m seasearch with 20hp I have to complete an rya power boat course and have insurance.
Is this right

Sibfun · 31 January 2018, 19:31

Hi can someone put me straight,I’ve just read that to launch my seasearch 4m sib i need to complete a rya power boat course level 2and have insurance,is this right

CJL · 31 January 2018, 19:33

Depends where you launch.

Most don't require anything.

Chris

FoxZulu · 31 January 2018, 20:08

No. There is no requirement for PB2 in the UK, though it's a good idea to do it. Insurance isn't required to use public slips, though I stand to be corrected, but private slips can insist on whatever they like. Again, good idea to have insurance for third party at least.

Pikey Dave · 31 January 2018, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Sibfun

Can someone please help,I’ve just read that if I want to launch my 4m seasearch with 20hp I have to complete an rya power boat course and have insurance.

Is this right

As a rule, no. But slipways & harbours are generally privately run here in the UK & the owners can demand what they like. Is it somewhere specific that you were looking at?

paulbrown22 · 31 January 2018, 21:15

Some "public" slips that are controlled by councils or harbour authorities might apply requirements around insurance (3rd party at least in case any damage is done to other vessels), and potentially proof of ability to drive a boat (commonly RYA PB2). Private/club slips may also have similar requirements. But I don't think there's any hard and fast rule - it's a case of read the rules of each site you go to!

I've used a variety of slips over the years and never yet been asked for any proof of this kind of thing at all, but I think some on here have.

Pikey Dave · 31 January 2018, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Sibfun

Hi can someone put me straight,I’ve just read that to launch my seasearch 4m sib i need to complete a rya power boat course level 2and have insurance,is this right

It seems like you've started 2 identical threads, might be worth dropping the mods a line & ask them if they could amalgamate them to save duplication.

Last Tango · 31 January 2018, 22:28

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Originally Posted by paulbrown22

I've used a variety of slips over the years and never yet been asked for any proof of this kind of thing at all, but I think some on here have.

+1

Never been asked to produce proof.
I suspect the ones that state the requirement are just covering their own asses.

Loch Lomond requires insurance...never been asked for proof. They require you have CE or USCG approved life jackets, you just get asked if you have them.
I'm not for one minute advocating you don't insure your boat, go out without life jackets or adequate training but, you break the rules "on your own head be it". I doubt anyone will actually try to stop you.

Chris Caton · 31 January 2018, 22:54

the public slips around Nth Wales and Merseyside are run by the various local councils, they all require proof of insurance and pbl2, but that's assuming there is someone from the council at the slip when you're launching!

Poly · 31 January 2018, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Last Tango

Loch Lomond requires insurance...

nothing in the bylaws about it IIRC - although I do think they ask the question (but since I have it I have no idea what happens if you say no).

HDAV · 01 February 2018, 00:02

Insurance yes, pretty much anywhere, PB2 a good idea and great fun but not “legally” required, some places offer a discount for PB2 operators torquay do iirc.

Some beaches are the same Council wardens etc. Find a lrivate slip or beach and it’s the owners discretion some want nothing, some want an. Fee, some won’t allow any launches

GI-SYD · 01 February 2018, 02:53

Why would you NOT want to have insurance? At least 3rd party insurance. When things go wrong on the water, it adds up pretty quickly, in $$$$, injuries and fatalities. Better to pay that fee, than pay legal costs, damages, etc.

rnwright1969 · 01 February 2018, 08:18

On the slips I use up here in Gods country the only one which wants anything apart from 'cash' is the slip controlled by River Tees barrage chaps, they insist on a copy of your insurance certificate and contact number.

Having got various bits of paper to 'prove' I am competent (hollow laugh) I am confident that my policy would cover any accident, one of the brokers questions is what certification do you have? I'm not sure what would happen regards the policy if you said 'nowt'.

Poly · 01 February 2018, 08:56

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Originally Posted by GI-SYD

Why would you NOT want to have insurance? At least 3rd party insurance. When things go wrong on the water, it adds up pretty quickly, in $$$$, injuries and fatalities. Better to pay that fee, than pay legal costs, damages, etc.

I’m not advocating not having 3rd party insurance. I think it is a sensible precaution BUT we are talking about a small engined SIB here... it bounces off most stuff. I can’t think of a case where a SIB of this size being driven responsibly has caused such damage or injury to third parties? Prop strike of swimmers etc is probably the most likely way to inflict harm but of course depending where and when you go that could be an extremely unlikely event.

Sibfun · 01 February 2018, 09:47

Thanks to everyone who replied

twowetfeet · 06 February 2018, 19:08

Our local council have a cheek to charge £110 per year and requires public liability insurance of £6m. Yet they rarely clear it for safe use. Austerity I think it's called.

HDAV · 06 February 2018, 21:38

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Originally Posted by twowetfeet

Our local council have a cheek to charge £110 per year and requires public liability insurance of £6m. Yet they rarely clear it for safe use. Austerity I think it's called.

£6mil? That’s a new one most are 2/3 max?