Small longshaft

Tommy c · 30 March 2022, 19:46

Following on from my sibbers and caravaners. To reduce weight and because speed is of no importance. I'm thinking of a 3.5hp 2t and got chance of a longshaft. Besides it being 5" lower in the water, is there any other cons IE drag causing even more speed or extra leverage on the transom

Steve509926 · 30 March 2022, 21:06

Why Tommy? 5" lower will cause drag so therefor slower, and because its so much lower it will collect water weed, debris and any other floating sh1te.

beamishken · 30 March 2022, 21:29

It will create drag & increase draft so more likely to hit the bottom but it will work, the difference in speed on a 3.5 will be negligible
Not ideal but if its all you can find on a budget then it will get you on the water

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Wazzajnr · 30 March 2022, 22:00

Tommy, I've got a 6hp Chinese motor which I've kept for a while as backup until I was confident in my prehistoric triggers Broom evinrude.
It's never let me down so if you're interested, make me an offer.
Probably only run 6 hours from new and we're not far from you.

Wazzajnr · 30 March 2022, 22:09

Ah, just looked back at your other post, you have a 5hp 2t anyway so mine won't be any lighter.
A 3.5 long shaft isn't going to be much lighter than a 5hp short so if it were me, I'd stick with what you know and is a better match for your boat.

Wazzajnr · 30 March 2022, 22:10

Also, a long shaft is going to be much harder to get in your front locker if you decide to go that way.
It's only 5" but makes them much more unwieldy in my experience.

beamishken · 30 March 2022, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Wazzajnr

Ah, just looked back at your other post, you have a 5hp 2t anyway so mine won't be any lighter.
A 3.5 long shaft isn't going to be much lighter than a 5hp short so if it were me, I'd stick with what you know and is a better match for your boat.

Theres roughly 8kg difference between a yam 5 2 stroke & a 3.5 tohatsu not sure what 3.5 the op is considering but they are considerably lighter than the next closest a yam malta is 17kg a 4/5yam is 21kg whereas the 3.5 tohatsu is around 12kg

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Wazzajnr · 30 March 2022, 22:43

Even for a long shaft?

beamishken · 30 March 2022, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Wazzajnr

Even for a long shaft?

Half a kg difference between longshaft & standard shaft

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Steve509926 · 30 March 2022, 23:13

Tommy just a suggestion. Why not take out one or if you've got two, both of your gas bottles and put those in the car. Frees up a lot of space in your caravan locker and reduces the nose weight by 12/24 kg.

Wazzajnr · 31 March 2022, 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by beamishken

Half a kg difference between longshaft & standard shaft

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Tommy c · 31 March 2022, 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by beamishken

Theres roughly 8kg difference between a yam 5 2 stroke & a 3.5 tohatsu not sure what 3.5 the op is considering but they are considerably lighter than the next closest a yam malta is 17kg a 4/5yam is 21kg whereas the 3.5 tohatsu is around 12kg

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Yeah it's the tohatsu I'm looking at and as you say, 8kg lighter. Speed not important. Weight and ease of transport is. If no other cons except draft then it's worth a thought

Tommy c · 31 March 2022, 07:32

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Originally Posted by Steve509926

Tommy just a suggestion. Why not take out one or if you've got two, both of your gas bottles and put those in the car. Frees up a lot of space in your caravan locker and reduces the nose weight by 12/24 kg.

Yeah, toying with going to Keswick with it all this weekend so worth a try

Wazzajnr · 31 March 2022, 08:10

If you are on the camping club site, launching off the beach is quite shallow for a long way out.
I rowed out a fair way and thought I was good but still clipped the skeg on a submerged rock.
No damage done thankfully but be careful with the extra length.

Tommy c · 31 March 2022, 09:53

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Originally Posted by Wazzajnr

If you are on the camping club site, launching off the beach is quite shallow for a long way out.
I rowed out a fair way and thought I was good but still clipped the skeg on a submerged rock.
No damage done thankfully but be careful with the extra length.

Thanks for the heads up.
It'll be on the one at the other end, Borrowdale, so if I go I'll launch from kettlewell

Wazzajnr · 31 March 2022, 11:47

Ok, no problem. I haven't launched there but I do know derwentwater is a bit shallow in places so just keep an eye on things if you're getting close to shore.
Happy sailing and keep the dry side up!

Steve509926 · 31 March 2022, 12:03

The best route on Derwentwater is to follow the ferry, stray from that route and you do risk grounding. Personally, I'd drive the 30 mins to Ullswater and launch at Glenridding.

Wazzajnr · 31 March 2022, 12:09

We just spent last Saturday afternoon on ullswater and it is infinitely better than derwentwater in my opinion too.
We paid a tenner for park foot parking and drove onto the beach to unload then parked up on the boating carpark 15yds away.
Takes all the stress out of it. ��

jeffstevens763@g · 31 March 2022, 14:52

I bought a secondhand 3.3 TS long shaft as a back up where it sits right next to the tube it’s the same depth as my 25 short shaft. 5 inch lower at displacement speed won’t drag much that you’ll notice.