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06 May 2009, 22:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cramlington
Boat name: PAL II
Make: Zodiac
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Engine: Suzuki 9.9df
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Spray protection?
Hello all new to site and would like to ask if anybody has made or seen any sort of spray dodger/cuddy etc to combat getting soaked when your stuck in choppy conditions?
I use my zodiac zoom 380s for fishing in the Newbiggin area.
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06 May 2009, 23:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
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i once made a very large dodger that came nearly half way along the boat held up at on end with peices of push fit pvc drain pipe on a 16 ft humber sib many years ago when we were using it for crab lobster potting ,was about 4 feet tall enough to have someone sat up underneath boiling a kettle , modelled it on the local cobles ,but we could put it up or take it down within minutes,was even thinking of making a folding one from two peices thin ply hinged in the middle but never got round to it .
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07 May 2009, 19:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cramlington
Boat name: PAL II
Make: Zodiac
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Engine: Suzuki 9.9df
Join Date: May 2009
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Originally Posted by m chappelow
i once made a very large dodger that came nearly half way along the boat held up at on end with peices of push fit pvc drain pipe on a 16 ft humber sib many years ago when we were using it for crab lobster potting ,was about 4 feet tall enough to have someone sat up underneath boiling a kettle , modelled it on the local cobles ,but we could put it up or take it down within minutes,was even thinking of making a folding one from two peices thin ply hinged in the middle but never got round to it .
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That was the type of thing I was thinkin about any ideas where I would get hold of some heavy duty sheet to do the job?
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07 May 2009, 22:39
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Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
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Engine: tohatsu
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you could try a tarpaulin or cover maker or see if there are any firms that do truck curtain siders for an old piece or an off cut .even those high street £pound shops sometimes do some that would do for your size boat .
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07 May 2009, 22:43
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Sliema - Malta
Make: Bat Grifo 2000
Length: 4m +
Engine: Susuki DF50
Join Date: May 2009
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[QUOTE=Iva-cod-on;293489] Hello all new to site and would like to ask if anybody has made or seen any sort of spray dodger/cuddy etc to combat getting soaked when your stuck in choppy conditions?
I use my zodiac zoom 380s for fishing in the Newbiggin area.
hi mate,
nice boat you have! small question please, i have a suzumar 320 with alu floor (similar 2 urs)but no motor yet, should be buying the outboard this week! decided i want a suzuki, but not sure if i buy the 9.9 or 15hp outboard.
with your 9.9 do you plane easily with 2 adults on the boat?
thanks
chris
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08 May 2009, 00:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cramlington
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[QUOTE=Floody;293657]
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Originally Posted by Iva-cod-on
Hello all new to site and would like to ask if anybody has made or seen any sort of spray dodger/cuddy etc to combat getting soaked when your stuck in choppy conditions?
I use my zodiac zoom 380s for fishing in the Newbiggin area.
hi mate,
nice boat you have! small question please, i have a suzumar 320 with alu floor (similar 2 urs)but no motor yet, should be buying the outboard this week! decided i want a suzuki, but not sure if i buy the 9.9 or 15hp outboard.
with your 9.9 do you plane easily with 2 adults on the boat?
thanks
chris
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Hi chris my boat planes no problem with two on board me on motor sitting on tube 13stone and father on front box 13stone plus spare gallon of fuel and lead sinkers up front.
It does 17knots flatout acording to gps full throttle but cruises at 13knots on the plane at half throttle I wheel the boat down the beach first then carry the motor down on my shoulder it's a heavy lump it wieghs 55 kg if I remember correctly when I bought it in nov 08 it was between the Suzuki or a mariner which was lighter by about 7kg the Suzuki is a lovely motor but I would have maybe thought twice with experience.
Ivan.
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08 May 2009, 14:08
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floody
hi mate,
nice boat you have! small question please, i have a suzumar 320 with alu floor (similar 2 urs)but no motor yet, should be buying the outboard this week! decided i want a suzuki, but not sure if i buy the 9.9 or 15hp outboard.
with your 9.9 do you plane easily with 2 adults on the boat?
thanks
chris
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I have a Suzuki 15hp on a Quicksilver 3.1. I can get about 25mph out of it and 22mph fully laden. it is a great engine but like all 4 strokes pretty heavy.
The extra power is useful and as the engines weigh exactly the same it would be silly not to go for the 15hp unless there is a big difference in price. I remember reading something on this site that it is quite easy to upgrade the 9 to a 15hp as they are the same engine but can't find the thread at the moment.
If you can find a nice 15hp 2 stroke though that would be the first choice as 4 strokes are heavy. The ideal is a Tohatsu 18hp as it's the same weight as the 9.9 and 15hp.
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08 May 2009, 22:49
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Hi Iva-cod-on
Are you getting sprayed whilst motoring or at anchor?
PS. Like the screen name;-)
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09 May 2009, 09:07
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cramlington
Boat name: PAL II
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharkbyte
Hi Iva-cod-on
Are you getting sprayed whilst motoring or at anchor?
PS. Like the screen name;-)
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Its while motoring when theres a chop on get loads in the face lol
I was quite pleased on the name myself lol
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09 May 2009, 22:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Angel-B
Make: Ex Y boat
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki 9.9HP
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
The extra power is useful and as the engines weigh exactly the same it would be silly not to go for the 15hp unless there is a big difference in price. I remember reading something on this site that it is quite easy to upgrade the 9 to a 15hp as they are the same engine but can't find the thread at the moment.
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That would be me
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28883
Post 2005, the only difference between DF9.9 and DF15 seems to be the carb. I may however have missed something, so if you do fit a DF15 carb and your engine shuffles off its mortal coil in an expensive manner, don't blame me .
Pre 2005, there is a whole lot of other stuff including different camshaft
I couldn't work out how just changing the carb could make a difference, then I saw the carbs...
Price for the carb is £207.34 ex vat and delivery from these guys:
www.imsupplies.co.uk
plus you need 2 new gaskets
I got a very good price for my DF9.9 (several years ago) from
www.pacermarine.co.uk
If I hadn't got such a good price it would probably have been cheaper to buy a DF15.
One thing to be aware of - Suzuki have come up with a new DF9.9 - this new engine cannot be upped to 15HP as it is a smaller capacity and shares internals with a new DF8.
Cheers
Chris
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10 May 2009, 18:33
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Town: Sliema - Malta
Make: Bat Grifo 2000
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Engine: Susuki DF50
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[QUOTE=Iva-cod-on;293675]
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Originally Posted by Floody
Hi chris my boat planes no problem with two on board me on motor sitting on tube 13stone and father on front box 13stone plus spare gallon of fuel and lead sinkers up front.
It does 17knots flatout acording to gps full throttle but cruises at 13knots on the plane at half throttle I wheel the boat down the beach first then carry the motor down on my shoulder it's a heavy lump it wieghs 55 kg if I remember correctly when I bought it in nov 08 it was between the Suzuki or a mariner which was lighter by about 7kg the Suzuki is a lovely motor but I would have maybe thought twice with experience.
Ivan.
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thanks for your reply...
luckily i dnt have to carry the motor for a long distance
now im trying to sort out a trailer, cause i willl get bored inflating and deflating every week....maybe a box trailer would do...
did u add an extra bench next to the motor? i noticed well ?
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10 May 2009, 18:39
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Town: Sliema - Malta
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Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
I have a Suzuki 15hp on a Quicksilver 3.1. I can get about 25mph out of it and 22mph fully laden. it is a great engine but like all 4 strokes pretty heavy.
The extra power is useful and as the engines weigh exactly the same it would be silly not to go for the 15hp unless there is a big difference in price. I remember reading something on this site that it is quite easy to upgrade the 9 to a 15hp as they are the same engine but can't find the thread at the moment.
If you can find a nice 15hp 2 stroke though that would be the first choice as 4 strokes are heavy. The ideal is a Tohatsu 18hp as it's the same weight as the 9.9 and 15hp.
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hard 2 find 2 strokes now in malta, nobody seems to want to sell them ive been looking for a gd 2nd hand one for ages,,
there is a big difference in price from 9.9 to 15....here in malta one has to pay a yearly licence for outboards which are more then 10hp..
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12 May 2009, 18:59
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Town: Cramlington
Boat name: PAL II
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[QUOTE=Floody;294142]
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Originally Posted by Iva-cod-on
thanks for your reply...
luckily i dnt have to carry the motor for a long distance
now im trying to sort out a trailer, cause i willl get bored inflating and deflating every week....maybe a box trailer would do...
did u add an extra bench next to the motor? i noticed well ?
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Its an old shore fishing box that I put a wooden top on and it wedges in lovely next to the fuel tank means i sit there one on the middle seat and one on the box at the front.
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12 May 2009, 20:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iva-cod-on
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Wow
what a great looking sib, looks great
that beach also looks just about the perfect place to launch it, no shingle, fantastic
great sib mate
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13 May 2009, 19:06
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Country: UK - England
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Thanks mate Its a good launch not too bad at all:-)
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09 June 2012, 12:56
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Custom made transparent spray water protection
Hello Iva-con-on
I made my own transparent custom made splash protection which works very well. Take a look at the thread I opened:
http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/custom-...iac-48669.html
Swissmorgy
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09 June 2012, 18:55
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Town: Madrid-Almeria
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Swissmorgy, that screen seems nice for lakes but not so operational for sea waves and sea wind. You can end shipping a lot of water inside the boat.
I believe a tent-like structure can be better. Something you can put up and down whenever needed. No rigid parts to avoid breaking and pinning the boat. It's easy to hit any structure and break it with your own body weight. Not to mention anchor and painter handling...
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09 June 2012, 21:07
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azzurro,
you are right. My protection is meant for relatively mild conditions and leisure activities. I wouldn't go on the open sea with more than a light breeze anyway in my small Zodiac. But on lake conditions up to 4 or 5 Beaufort it does a good job keeping away splashing water the wind would otherwise blow into your face.
For me, the tent-like protections like that one are for emergencies, for one single person only or to protect luggage. They sure keep dry whatever is under them. But persons wouldn't feel too well under that thing and go seasick after a few minutes.
Swissmorgy
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10 June 2012, 20:32
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Town: Madrid-Almeria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swissmorgy
azzurro,
you are right. My protection is meant for relatively mild conditions and leisure activities. I wouldn't go on the open sea with more than a light breeze anyway in my small Zodiac. But on lake conditions up to 4 or 5 Beaufort it does a good job keeping away splashing water the wind would otherwise blow into your face.
For me, the tent-like protections like that one are for emergencies, for one single person only or to protect luggage. They sure keep dry whatever is under them. But persons wouldn't feel too well under that thing and go seasick after a few minutes.
Swissmorgy
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That spray hood looks great!
One of the biggest problems I have is seagull shit.
A spray hood with that angle is not a comfortable place to be if you are a seagull.
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