SS “Richard Montgomery wreck

Cuboide · 22 June 2023, 21:06

Hi, I am based in Southend on Sea and have 2.65m sib with a Tohatsu 3.5hp. Has anyone gone up to the Montgomery wreck and it is allowed to fish close by? Thanks

ShinyShoe · 22 June 2023, 22:29

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery

There is an exclusion zone. It has live munitions on it.

How practical a tiny sib with an egg whisk on the back is to get there I have no idea. No doubt, in the right conditions you could get there in anything. But if conditions change...

Steve509926 · 22 June 2023, 22:42

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Originally Posted by ShinyShoe

How practical a tiny sib with an egg whisk on the back is to get there I have no idea.

Harsh

mhill · 23 June 2023, 06:11

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Originally Posted by Steve509926

Harsh

But fair!

Been close / past a few times, in a 5m & 7m RHIB the conditions change quickly & drastically, make sure you have a good forecast and know what your doing.

Personally I wouldn’t do it in such a craft in anything less than mill pond high summer.

Last time I went past Southend Pier was coming back from the big smoke to Brightlingsea on Easter Sunday. Got caught in big seas and unforcast fog, wasn’t pleasant.

Cuboide · 23 June 2023, 08:16

Probably wise not adventure there with my gears. Just looking for a decent fishing spot I can get to. Any recommendation in the Southend on Sea area? Thanks

willk · 23 June 2023, 15:29

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Probably wise not adventure there with my gears.

It's not really about your gear though is it - it's forbidden to fish there, for reasons that should be obvious. Men in Grey Boats will make sure that rule is enforced.

"There is an exclusion zone around her monitored visually and by radar."

mhill · 23 June 2023, 15:32

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It's not really about your gear though is it - it's forbidden to fish there, for reasons that should be obvious. Men in Grey Boats will make sure that rule is enforced.

"There is an exclusion zone around her monitored visually and by radar."

Tbf they don’t have anything other than the Pilots to send out to move you on. Not sure where Kent police marine unit are based but if anything like Essex they will struggle to react timely unless they are already on the water. Doubt the Met are going to send a Targa either.

willk · 23 June 2023, 15:36

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Originally Posted by mhill

Tbf they don’t have anything other than the Pilots to send out to move you on. Not sure where Kent police marine unit are based but if anything like Essex they will struggle to react timely unless they are already on the water. Doubt the Met are going to send a Targa either.

Is there much fishing going on over the wreck currently?

GuyC · 23 June 2023, 22:15

There is an interesting MAIB report on a fishing boat that snagged a bomb which went off under the boat. The damage to the crew and the boat is pretty impressive.

https://www.gov.uk/maib-reports/subs...juries-to-crew

Apologies for the thread creep.

beamishken · 23 June 2023, 22:57

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There is an interesting MAIB report on a fishing boat that snagged a bomb which went off under the boat. The damage to the crew and the boat is pretty impressive.

https://www.gov.uk/maib-reports/subs...juries-to-crew

Apologies for the thread creep.

Thats quite an impressive amount of damage [emoji2357]. I doubt the opp would get something that size off the bottom with a string of mackerel feathers though[emoji1787][emoji1787]

ShinyShoe · 24 June 2023, 07:10

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Originally Posted by mhill

Tbf they don’t have anything other than the Pilots to send out to move you on. Not sure where Kent police marine unit are based but if anything like Essex they will struggle to react timely unless they are already on the water. Doubt the Met are going to send a Targa either.

If you were wandering across London Bridge you might well think "Not seen a cop for a while..if something happens they will take ages to get here.. and then struggle to do much with their stupid hat and a truncheon".

If you do something completely stupid, you'll find out just how fast they can be there and with what force. First armed response to fishmongers was 5 minutes. Westminster bridge attack there were FIFTY armed officers within 20 minutes.

You don't need a police boat to go tell some eejit in a SKB to shift. But if they don't move, or return when the pilot boat leaves, given the amount of ordnance down there and it's potential for repurposing - you might well expect a "swift and robust" response... ...make sure you haven't got plans for that evening... ...make sure you left your house tidy for them when they come to rummage it.

Cuboide · 24 June 2023, 10:02

Hi all, just to go back on my question, if you can recommend a good fishing spot accessible with a small sib in the Southend-on-Sea area, thanks

Tommy c · 24 June 2023, 10:35

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Hi all, just to go back on my question, if you can recommend a good fishing spot accessible with a small sib in the Southend-on-Sea area, thanks

Have you got a launch point in mind?
Have you got a depth sounder?
If you go onto navionics you can view a basic free chart but obviously it won't show your location on the free version till you purchase the full chart. But you can zoom into your free version and play about with satellite and sonar chart to find interesting areas. If you are after anything just drift about with baited hokkias and see what happens

Cuboide · 05 July 2023, 08:23

Thanks Tommy, Navionics is very useful!