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Old 17 June 2016, 17:37   #41
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Read up on the tear aid it can now be applied in the wet I have used it it sticks like s--t to blanket stretches with the fabric £7.95 rib store kit A & B PVC kit B I think.

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Old 18 June 2016, 11:04   #42
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You can tell u don't own a searider. There is a lack of Duck Tape in the final solution... #disapointed
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Old 18 June 2016, 11:58   #43
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Hi again Jeff..that Tear Aid patch looks the biz ..and worth knowing about. Im not getting any but your suggestion planted another seed in my brian. I have a little left over Keel Easy tape..which is great stuff to protect the keel of F-Ribs and Kayaks etc. Its a hard plastic tape.. very strong..and it has its own adhesive.. so just a case of slapping it on for a temp repair at sea. I will include a patch in my repair kit.




ShinyShoe ..you may find keel easy is better for the SR4 than duck tape

I guess Im an impatient old git too..so this morning..after my own bath ..I siphoned the soapy suds into the rear of the Gurnard...( Im a great believer in re cycling stuff). It didn’t surprise me to see the ex leak as tight as a crab’s ass.. not a bubble to be seen in the soapy water..despite full pressurised tubes.




So the floor is now back in..which reminded my why a heavy floored SIB needs to be on a trailer ..but that is another story.



Im sure you will agree..my amature repair now looks quite professional ..and in my opinion..no harder than slapping a patch on a bike tyre.

I did the same for the tube on other side of the boat..even though it didn’t have a leak.. it is for preventative maintenance purposes only

Thanks again to those who commented or read my drivel.
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Old 18 June 2016, 15:26   #44
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Excellent stuff Gurnard.
Happy to see The Gurnard restored to full sea worthy condition again.
I'll be checking my Honwave later in the year when I remove the floor to give it a clean out.
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Old 18 June 2016, 17:45   #45
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kari - Tec one for the maintenance book all good stuff.

On my way home I bought two mushrooms for a trial don't know how long it will be before I get it done but will post at the end of the thread I will also do something with the tear aid just to show what can be achieved all really for the emergency repair, nothing worse than spending your hols with a boat as flat as a fart.
The repair looks good gurnard and just shows holes can be sorted cheep as chips.
This is all good for the newbie hope it continues.

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Old 28 June 2016, 15:34   #46
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done a trial with the mushroom it will certainly fix a hole temporary even without glue it will give a seal as its got a sticky coating the trouble is i could only get it down to 20 mm round so a struggle getting it through small holes not ideal but might have its uses for £2.99 each.
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Old 30 June 2016, 18:12   #47
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done the tear aid trial and for me by far the best quick repair.
i had a bit of vinyl for the test piece so part B should be the repair kit, but i tried both A&B cleaned with the alcohol wipe as directed in the test kit stuck the patches on and left for 24 hours.
tested by pushing a retracted ball point pen through the hole from in sticky side to give around 10 mm protrusion more than 3 psi air pressure could ever do. the tear aid stretched but the patch stayed in place the patches are 20 mm x 20 mm did the same on both with the same result,
tried peeling a corner on both to see if they would come off, after 10 attempts the corner lifted but was easily pushed back down again on both but i would say the part A yielded more but not that it would worry me if thats all i had to do a temporary repair whilst afloat.
there is a kit for applying underwater for both A&b along side the regular kits but i haven't tried it as its going in my tool box.
my conclusion if your not confidant, not got the experience,or the conditions to do a proper repair this stuff will get you back on the water until you can get it sorted.

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Sounds good. Any good on wet surfaces?
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Old 30 June 2016, 18:30   #49
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Im not sure I follow. What's the difference between A and B ? Are these effectively like "Park Patches" that you get for bikes (self adhesive rather than old school with glue).
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The wet kit for wet surfaces shiny but I would say it would stick with the normal kit the same way when they stick signs on vans they spray with water and it displaces when pushed down I will do a trial to see with the normal kit.
Part A neoprene part B pvc poly but I tried both on the vinyl both would do a temp repair.
Test kits are about £1.50 + post for a trial two patches, you can buy massive patches from the tear aid site. There are other applications tents swimming pools boat seats etc there clear patches so ideal for seats on ribs and stretch with the fabric.

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The wet kit for wet surfaces shiny but I would say it would stick with the normal kit the same way when they stick signs on vans they spray with water and it displaces when pushed down I will do a trial to see with the normal kit.
Part A neoprene part B pvc poly but I tried both on the vinyl both would do a temp repair.
Test kits are about £1.50 + post for a trial two patches, you can buy massive patches from the tear aid site. There are other applications tents swimming pools boat seats etc there clear patches so ideal for seats on ribs and stretch with the fabric.

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thanks - one day I hope to have to worry about punctures ;-)
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thanks - one day I hope to have to worry about punctures ;-)
All you need is a hot gas knife if and I mean if you ever need a repair.

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Jeff great testing and reporting back thanks.

I reckon I'll get some Tear-aid.

At the moment I carry the Zodiac standard repair kit with one-part glue and a clamseal.

https://www.seaeagle.com/img/Accs/Large/CLAMSEAL.jpg

... and hope I'll not need either!
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Jeff great testing and reporting back thanks.

I reckon I'll get some Tear-aid.

At the moment I carry the Zodiac standard repair kit with one-part glue and a clamseal.

https://www.seaeagle.com/img/Accs/Large/CLAMSEAL.jpg

... and hope I'll not need either!
all good David but the clam shell is a bit limited but a brilliant repair if unsightly we use them and leave on but you do have to make holes bigger in some cases.
the tear aid is good i used some on my rib a small scuff it was on for three years no sign of coming off plus being clear blends in.
go on the site and buy a test kit have a play worth seeing its performance.
i was going to do a wet trial but had a read of the underwater one and it works in the dry and wet but states non textured wet so just buy the underwater repair best of both worlds.
also the stuff gurnard has stuck on is worth a look at for floor repairs its got a bit more thickness to it.
so for a few quid it would have to be really drastic to stop you boating with a repair kit with all the bits mentioned.



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Old 02 July 2016, 13:17   #55
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Some good info there Jeff..that Tear aid looks the goods.

Just an update on my repair..the Gurnard took a good hammering in a heavy sea last week.. Tube has lost no air whatsoever since its repair..so all is well
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Excellent gurnard if you can sort a repair in that position anything else is a doddle.

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