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07 July 2020, 12:45
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It takes a long time for the RNLI to test, trial and put into service a new hull, theres also nothing wrong with the Arancia at all, that design has been evolving for decades. I’d also hazard a guess a PVC boat would stand the test of time sat in the sun 8 hours a day 6 months of the year.
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07 July 2020, 12:47
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Originally Posted by GuyC
At night as part of a co-ordinated search effort in shallow water less than 1/2 mile from the beach - a D Class every time.
The D Class and Arancia are different boats hence why the RNLI operates them both.
At night, sneaking in to land forces on the beach without being seen - a black SIB every time.
We can keep adding scenario's that favour different boats. It's good that there are many different types (and size) of Soft IB's but I'm not sure it is possible to identify one as king.
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Arancias can’t operate at night in this country, some NZ and Aus clubs have night gear though.
As said I’m not comparing the boats! People are get a bit hung up on that aspect, Just introducing the IRB to some people who may not know much about them.
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07 July 2020, 13:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
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Originally Posted by SixtyNorth
That looked quite light in the bow, do they flip over easily when going fast into a strong and gusty headwind? I can imagine it helps to have a crew member up front.
Gemini make similar 'cat hulled' surf rescue boats in South Africa. Runswick Rescue operate one ( Runswick Rescue | Independent Lifeboat – Saving Lives Since 1982) but that is the only inshore rescue cat hulled SIB that I am aware of in the U.K. Does anyone know why they are not more popular here? The RNLI seem to prefer traditional inflatables with a single keel. The Arancia is the same.
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30 mph winds that day and we went in some 2 m seas he had no problems
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07 July 2020, 13:15
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Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allye
Surf cat -
Cheaper because it’ll last less than half the time!
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i think the surfcat was £3000 delivered PVC hypalon a grand more at the side of £12000 - £13000 just saying
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07 July 2020, 13:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
i think the surfcat was £3000 delivered PVC hypalon a grand more at the side of £12000 - £13000 just saying
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Jeff - we are not comparing boats
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07 July 2020, 15:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuyC
Jeff - we are not comparing boats
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i'm not im replying to post 18 following on from my original post for a commercial priced sib
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08 July 2020, 10:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
SIB 11m x 3 m
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And a 7m Excel just come up for sale in FB
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...5920625154256/
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08 July 2020, 10:33
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Boat name: Spy-sea-one
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19 July 2020, 22:44
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There’s a IRB in there some where, and it makes it out!
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19 July 2020, 23:12
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Town: Southampton
Boat name: Das float
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury thunder 20hp
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Irc mk3
IRC Mk3 there is no better boat without a solid hull !
Kiss the ring !
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19 July 2020, 23:20
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That’s a very cute amount of surf
Those heavy old things wouldn’t see which way an Arancia went in surf.
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20 July 2020, 08:26
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But then a bigger and heavier boat has less chance of being capsized in heavy weather... strong winds etc. And more load capacity. There is no king of SIBs, it is just about having the right boat for the task. E.g. Surf rescue, SAR, military, exploring etc.
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20 July 2020, 08:31
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Alright steady on, was just a bit of tongue in cheek.
Forgot to add the outboards have a few modifications too;
Starter handle spacer
Strengthened shaft (not 100% how they do this)
Start in gear disabled
Stainless propel, anti cavitation prop guard
Stainless cupped prop
Used to have upside down mercury kill switches to avoid flicking them off in surf, use normal button type switches now
Throttle return spring
Brand new one have cheap plastic cowlings that kept jumping off in surf so have been modified with stainless to stop flex
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20 July 2020, 08:33
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Alright steady on, was just a bit of tongue in cheek.
Forgot to add the outboards have a few modifications too;
Starter handle spacer
Strengthened shaft (not 100% how they do this)
Start in gear disabled
Stainless propel, anti cavitation prop guard
Stainless cupped prop
Used to have upside down mercury kill switches to avoid flicking them off in surf, use normal button type switches now
Throttle return spring
Brand new one have cheap plastic cowlings that kept jumping off in surf so have been modified with stainless to stop flex
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20 July 2020, 17:59
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Das float
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury thunder 20hp
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Yeah true but the IRC is a better allrounder as it can do everything the Arancia can do whilst carrying more than just a handbag and its quite a lot better for everything else outside of surf rescue.
P.S. I love a good slagging so crack on !
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20 July 2020, 21:33
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I’d argue a Arancia is rated to 6 people so by no means “a handbag” I’d also bet longevity and build quality would exceed even those zodiacs.
But again, as said a few times no comparisons are intended every boat has its job, just showing some people a SIB they may not have otherwise seen and some interesting facts about them.
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