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03 June 2013, 21:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,551
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Originally Posted by whisper
Don't sit on the fence Peter
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You know me ...'are we still here ?' ' Can we go yet?' 'I want to go boating not faffing' etc etc.
He knows he needs to upgrade the SIB..he's just in denial.....
I don't sit on fences ...but then some us haven't had Biff take them out for us ....see you Sat morn at LOS CG station
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03 June 2013, 22:11
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,020
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Originally Posted by PeterM
To get across whispers well made points:
Loose some weight tubbs, get a decent sib, stop faffing with a long a shaft and get decent engine. Clear? Good....
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Oi Peter 5 chins! Pot kettle indeed
I bought the engine to use as an aux primary purpose, I then decided to get a mini SIB as a mess about. That SIB will fit on the RC when I take it down to Cornwall or somewhere other than the Solent where I need to anchor off and the little SIB can get me to and from the shore.
It planes perfectly well with just me.
I do not need 3+ boats like some nobbers
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03 June 2013, 23:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,047
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You are not a true rib nobber until you have enough ribs of all different shapes and sizes so you can pile them up and make a big rubber pyramid
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04 June 2013, 08:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Marple
Make: Zodiac
Length: under 3m
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 651
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I've got a Zodiac 2.85m SIB (solid floor, air keel) with a Tohatsu 9.8 short shaft on it.
The boat will plane easily with two of us on board, achieving over 20mph very quickly.
With just me on board it goes like a rocket, getting "on the plane" straightaway if you open the throttle (no delay "getting out of the hole")
It's fitted with the standard prop which is the second largest pitch available in the list. (I think it is 8.5)
I think your problem may be that your engine is a long shaft version. Even with a short shaft I found the engine performed better when I raised it an inch on the transom with a block of wood.
I bought the larger pitch prop which I think is a 9.5 and with that fitted it still performs pretty much as above, except there is a bit of a delay to plane with two persons on board. I also bought a TinyTach to see what was going on but have not tested it yet.
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07 July 2013, 17:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Marple
Make: Zodiac
Length: under 3m
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 651
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An update I have had the SIB out on the water at WOT and with the standard prop it is doing 5500rpm.
This is the short shaft version of the Tohatsu 9.8 two stroke engine. At this RPM it will just hit 20mph with one person on board.
It's much happier throttled back a bit, to 4800rpm, where it achieves 16-17mph.
With two of us on board it's similar tbh maybe down 1mph but I did not try it at WOT two up as there were some waves and my wife said she "felt sick and could we slow down"
According to the handbook the long shaft is supplied with a 7.5 pitch prop and the short shaft comes with an 8.5
I guess this is because they assume the long shaft version will be used on a larger boat.
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07 July 2013, 18:55
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,020
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I now have a ss. Tested it last week with Tach and took off the 8.5 as it wasn't hitting top end WOT revs went for the 7.5 and is reaching 5700 rpm. Have raised by an inch on the transom. Today with two of us me and PeterM we topped out at 17 knts. Happy days!
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07 July 2013, 19:03
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,020
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Sorry heat stroke is kicking in I meant 15.7 SOG, I knew there was a 7 in there!
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07 July 2013, 20:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Marple
Make: Zodiac
Length: under 3m
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 651
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That's great, exactly what we are getting with ours, two up at 5500 rpm about 19mph so l think you have nailed it there.
(Just been out again now my wife recovered, and the sea has gone calm)
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07 July 2013, 20:28
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#29
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,020
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Must admit took a bit of playing around and I have trimmed out to reduce the splashback its amazing the difference one hole back makes.
Pretty happy with the performance.
Cheers for your post always helpful to compare set ups.
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08 July 2013, 20:57
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#30
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,998
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If trim hole is set to achieve a paralell boat to water level while on plane including splash out/over transom issues. It's not a trim issue, it's engine sitting on transom at not opt height. Tohatsu engines needs a height optimization compared to most other brands that probably doesn't, it's a lower tail design issue...
Happy Boating
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08 July 2013, 21:29
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,882
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ.
... its amazing the difference one hole back makes.
Pretty happy with the performance.
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08 July 2013, 21:51
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#32
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,020
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Video to come Willk will be posted on the Portsmouth Sib club thread but probably not to mid next week due to hols
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11 July 2013, 17:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cheshire
Make: Sea-Swift
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp Johnson 2Stroke
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 38
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Bought myself one of these today....
Hour Meter Tach Tachometer Boat Outboard Mercury Yamaha | eBay
Seems like a bit of a bargain.. wont get to test till away next week but will give me an excuse to fiddle with trim and play with weight distribution just to see how much difference I can make..
Lets hope the sun stays a bit longer!!
Chris
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11 July 2013, 19:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,486
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoph
Bought myself one of these today....
Hour Meter Tach Tachometer Boat Outboard Mercury Yamaha | eBay
Seems like a bit of a bargain.. wont get to test till away next week but will give me an excuse to fiddle with trim and play with weight distribution just to see how much difference I can make..
Lets hope the sun stays a bit longer!!
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Blimey, that is cheap! Let us know how you get on, I need a tach following this topic:
http://www.rib.net/forum/f36/3-kts-d...e-56430-3.html
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11 July 2013, 21:00
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#35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Marple
Make: Zodiac
Length: under 3m
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 651
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Chinese tat.
Still, if it works then l guess it is all you need.
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11 July 2013, 22:16
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#36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: kent
Boat name: SIBotage
Make: Prowave
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp Johnson 2 smoke
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoph
Bought myself one of these today....
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I've got one of these.
It is Chinese tat but it does the job.
Mines cable tied to the tiller arm so I can see it easily (ish) when going along.
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