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Old 30 December 2008, 12:49   #1
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Transom wheels - pneumatic or sandhopper?

I'm currently looking at getting some transom wheels for my new SIB.

I suspect I am going to have to remove them rather than flip them up due to space between elephant trunks etc on the transom. I'd also prefer to remove them to keep the boat looking 'original'.

I was looking at pneumatic tyred wheels like these:



but have also seen what are described as sandhopper wheels, like this:



which as well as being cheaper are (allegedly) better on sand (hence the name) and will presumably be easier to deploy due to less positive buoyancy.

Does anyone have any experience of these type of wheels?

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Old 30 December 2008, 13:06   #2
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I would have thought which ever has the greater surface area would be best?
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Old 30 December 2008, 14:38   #3
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I have the pneumatic tyres fitted to mine.

They are cranked slightly to give clearance. The bigger the diameter tyres the better. on sand obviously the wider the wheel/tyre the better.

Maybe on sand the solid one would be slightly better but I am sure if you deflate the other ones slightly they would be just as good - on other surfaces the inflatable ones would be far better.

i agree the solid ones would be easier to deploy when in the water but why would you need to do that? Just as easy to lift the engine last minute and drift in.

I wouldn't be without my launching wheels - they are a godsend and swing up out of the way no probs.
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rolling resistance

It all depends on the launch surface and boat weight. Beach launching my boat with a trailer and a 4wd pickup has really shown me that the rolling resistance on soft surfaces is a big issue. A soft underinflated tire will roll much easier on sand than a hard one. Letting a lot of the air out of my truck and trailer tires does increase the footprint, but it is the decreased rolling resistance that makes it cruise over the sand rather than dig in. I would never get my rig out with fully inflated tires. With similar footprints I would go for the pnuematic tire if beach launching. I gave away my hard plastic tire sea kayak dolly and bought one with spongy big tires, it doesn't drag furoughs into the beach like the original. Just my experience for whatever that's worth!
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I have both wheels.........

...........and would for sure strongly advise that you should go with the pnumatic tyres. Whilst the solid ones run great on hard compressed sand, I find them terrible through soft sugar sand, so much so that I have to get friends and family to pull me through the same however, with the pnumatic tyres it is far easier.

Personaly I remove the whole launching leg and wheel before I enter the water as the sib looks terrible with the legs sticking up.

Perhaps more importantly, you should take great care of the engine as the previous owner of my sib had incurred a number of chips on the engine cowling due to the engine hitting the SS legs.

Just my opinion based on experience.
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I have the pneumatic tyres fitted to mine.

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Just bought a new pair off Ebay £75 delivered, look the same as yours except for the colour!!!!!!
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Thats a great price!!!
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ive had both and pneumatic the only way,
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Just bought a new pair off Ebay £75 delivered, look the same as yours except for the colour!!!!!!
There are sets similar to those,,,,,,,,,,,,for 45 pound on e bay now,,,,,,,,,,,,i paid 75 for them 2 xmas s ago,,,,,,,,, doh
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WHATTTT I thought i got a good deal. Where are these £45 jobs? does that inc shipping
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WHATTTT I thought i got a good deal. Where are these £45 jobs? does that inc shipping
HI ya mate just had a look on e bay ,,,,,,,,,,,,inflatable dinghys BUY IT NOW £53.00 plus £7.50 postage,,,,,,,,,,,,but last week i saw them for £45.............its strange one week they are less ,then more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i paid 75 ,,,,,,,and then they went blinking right down to 45,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dam anoying lol,,,,,,,,,,, PS JUST HAD ANOTHER LOOK AND THERE SELLING THE SAME WHEELS AND ITS AN OPEN BID ,,,,,,,,,,,,THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUY IT KNOW............SO IF YOU MISSED THE BUY IT NOW PRICE ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YOU COULD END UP PAYING DAM MORE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I DON T KNOW HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH IT
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get a quote from these

http://www.rosshandling.co.uk/assorted-wheels.asp

they were cheaper than ebay on the sandhoppers i ordered by miles
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HI ya mate just had a look on e bay ,,,,,,,,,,,,inflatable dinghys BUY IT NOW £53.00 plus £7.50 postage,,,,,,,,,,,,but last week i saw them for £45.............its strange one week they are less ,then more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i paid 75 ,,,,,,,and then they went blinking right down to 45,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dam anoying lol,,,,,,,,,,, PS JUST HAD ANOTHER LOOK AND THERE SELLING THE SAME WHEELS AND ITS AN OPEN BID ,,,,,,,,,,,,THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUY IT KNOW............SO IF YOU MISSED THE BUY IT NOW PRICE ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YOU COULD END UP PAYING DAM MORE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I DON T KNOW HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH IT
Are you sure they are the same wheels? The £50 wheels like these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/new-Launching-Wheels-Fold-Up-150kgs-Inflatable-dinghy_W0QQitemZ360125596556QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_BoatEquipment_Accessories_SM?ha sh=item360125596556&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms =72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

are aluminium and rated for 150kg whilst these ones (which I have just bought) at £72 are stainless steel and rated for 200kg:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INFLATABLE-TENDER-LAUNCHING-DINGHY-WHEELS-S-S-NEW_W0QQitemZ180285297499QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car sParts_Vehicles_BoatEquipment_Accessories_SM?hash= item180285297499&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72 %3A1683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

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Phew i did get a bargain then, wheels arrived yesterday and I am delighted they are everything i hoped for good quality stainless fittings proper 14" inflatable tyres can't wait to bolt them on
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Thats the ones,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ther brill on my boat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i only have a 3m and small o/b,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so there just right for me,,,,,,,,,,,there not stainless ,,,,,,,,,,,,so you got a great bargain there
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