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19 August 2008, 19:04
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: kamloops
Boat name: 380H
Make: seabright marine
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 mercury 4S
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 11
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transport canada boat numbers?
ok how many of you guys actually have boat numbers on their tubes?...here in canada it is the law that your boat must be licensed if it's over 9.9hp...you are also required to have 3" high numbers on both sides of your boat!(or pay a fine)...well ya sure if ya can get them on there!...I have tried to no avail with rubber paint products and stencils etc...nothing stays on!...we do not seem to have a product here in canada that works on hypalon!...now short of hanging a board over the side with my numbers on(yuk)...Im lost for answers....anybody wanna suggest something?.....thxs
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19 August 2008, 20:55
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Newmarket
Boat name: ELA
Make: METZELER
Length: 4m +
Engine: 20 Suzuki
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 157
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I have no numbers on my sib, only been stopped once. I gave them the registration told them they washed off, showed them a little black scuff mark, just a little lie, they said they had the same problem with there little sibs and told me to have a good. I think they were looking more for booze than anything else. This year I have not seen one cop on the water so no problem again. I know one of these days I might have to do some fancy footwork. My cousin does leather and vinyl repair and the stuff he has will stick to hypalon so he says. In a couple of months going to pay him a visit and see how good it is. If it last I can send you a little if you still need some.
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19 August 2008, 22:24
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Member
Country: Other
Town: San Carlos, Mexico
Boat name: INDE
Make: LOMAC 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 Merc.
MMSI: Please press 1
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,688
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I have 3 inch high numbers on my tubes. Applied them about 9 months ago and they have survived both Arizona and mexico sun and rain. uncovered.
I used standard viynle letters from Ace hardware and cleaned the hypalon well with toluene before application. So far so good.
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19 August 2008, 22:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,641
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The French have exactly the same rule. Must admit the letters sure are ugly.
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20 August 2008, 00:52
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Tobermory, Canada eh
Boat name: Verius
Make: Zodiac Hurricane 590
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F150
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,366
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Mine have been on for years and holding up well... painted on by the dealer..
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20 August 2008, 05:36
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: British Columbia
Make: Gemini
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp 2 str
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,151
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I put some vynil stick on letters & numbers onto the rubbing strakes. I'l see how long they hold up. You could always simply use a black permanent dry marker and write the #s on by hand. It will hold up well.
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20 August 2008, 16:10
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Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
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Used an El Marko to put the numbers on my Achilles. You have to touch them up every now and then.
For the Polaris, Guy had someone who does die stamping make up a hypalon patch with the numbers inset in a contrasting color. That was glued onto the tubes. No idea how much it cost, but it looks a lot better than the El Marko route.
You can ask at polarisboats.com if you're interested.
jky
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20 August 2008, 17:40
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,152
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West Marine here in the States has small containers of latex paint with stencils. Seems to work on hypalon.
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20 August 2008, 19:44
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Rigaud, Que.
Boat name: Rigaud Explorer
Make: 6m Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yam115
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 90
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The Bombard Explorer 600 I purchased this year is 10 years old with Hypalon numbers on a patch. Still the originals from 1998 and holding.
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20 August 2008, 21:11
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Toronto
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yamaha, 15hp, 2str
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 71
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Mine are "hang on" type. Vinyl stickers from Home Depot lasted one season. So I painted numbers on soft vinyl fabric. Then I hang them with plastic curtain rings. While on plane they look more like a black and white banners but while fishing numbers are visible. Worked well as "leave me alone, I have numbers" statement Cost effective too ...
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21 August 2008, 03:00
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Newmarket
Boat name: ELA
Make: METZELER
Length: 4m +
Engine: 20 Suzuki
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 157
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That sounds good dim
Just wondering when I went and got ownership changed they asked me if I wanted to keep the same numbers. I guess you can change numbers if you feel like it but having something that you can remove might be a plus for the next boat.
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21 August 2008, 08:14
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Cowichan Bay
Boat name: Neptune
Make: Zodiac Hurricane
Length: 6m +
Engine: twin140 suzi 4stroke
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 203
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Most sign places will make you vinyl letters and numbers for next to nothing. They are cut out, not square blocks like you get at most hardware stores. Had mine on my polaris for 10 years and 3 years on my hurricane. I think it cost me about $10. They come on a peel and apply sheet so they go on straight and even.
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21 August 2008, 15:58
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Country: Canada
Town: Toronto
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yamaha, 15hp, 2str
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 71
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Originally Posted by OceanEco
Most sign places will make you vinyl letters and numbers for next to nothing.
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How do they survive inflating and deflating almost every week through summer?
PS Found photo with my numbers I am happy with them so far. Cost is 2$ and 30 mins of my time.
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21 August 2008, 22:00
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,152
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Originally Posted by dim.
How do they survive inflating and deflating almost every week through summer?
PS Found photo with my numbers I am happy with them so far. Cost is 2$ and 30 mins of my time.
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Those would not be legal in the States. Numbers are required to be permanently attached to the boat here and on the forward part of the hull. They go with the hull/registration, not the owner upon sale.
My current hypalon RIB has painted numbers, they seem to be fine - it stays inflated 99% of the time. My previous Bombard SIB got deflated periodically. It had a huge embossed "C3" near the bow so paint didn't work. It had 2 rigid placards bolted onto the liferope.
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26 August 2008, 22:13
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: kamloops
Boat name: 380H
Make: seabright marine
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 mercury 4S
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 11
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well guys thanks so now I failed miserabley putting on letters!...went and got a stencil made up and bought some marine rubber paint...only thing I could find here...painted them on and the paint stuck to the stencil and peeled right of the tubes...what a joke that was..cost me $50 for that mistake..
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27 August 2008, 13:10
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Newmarket
Boat name: ELA
Make: METZELER
Length: 4m +
Engine: 20 Suzuki
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 157
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cleaning
Facedown, asked my cousin about your sib. He says for numbers to come off that easy there had to be a contaminant “silicone” or something on your boat. When he repairs cars, boat, furniture 80% of the work is cleaning the area that needs repair. I asked hem a cheap way to clean my boat for numbers and he said scrub with soap and water rinse clean, clean with citric cleaner rinse very will with hot water, clean with alcohol 99% pure “get it at electronic stores”. Then he would apply the numbers with a good paint made for pvc or hypalon then go over the area with 303 or a product that has no silicone in it. He uses a latex paint that stretches. Hope this helps. Still like the removable numbers dim uses.
Dim you got me convinced I’m going to try lake Ontario next year, what’s your set up for fishing didn’t see any canon balls hanging over you sib.
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27 August 2008, 15:14
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Toronto
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yamaha, 15hp, 2str
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dverstege
Still like the removable numbers dim uses.
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I've added couple more rings and fix them to the front rope. They are look much nicer now.
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Originally Posted by dverstege
Dim you got me convinced I’m going to try lake Ontario next year, what’s your set up for fishing didn’t see any canon balls hanging over you sib.
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Well it would be a next step. I already have Scotty 1099 in my wish list Now I am using divers and/or leadcore.
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Those would not be legal in the States. Numbers are required to be permanently attached to the boat here and on the forward part of the hull.
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I still think it is better than nothing.
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28 August 2008, 06:33
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: kamloops
Boat name: 380H
Make: seabright marine
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 mercury 4S
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 11
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hey dverstege...wow...contaminates u say?...hummm ok well maybe i will give it it go per your instructions....thanks for your help I appreciate all I can get here.
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28 August 2008, 14:39
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Newmarket
Boat name: ELA
Make: METZELER
Length: 4m +
Engine: 20 Suzuki
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 157
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Don't forget the 303
Don't forget using 303 or something like it, all that cleaning leaves that tube area unprotected. He mentioned it twice so I thought I would to.
I'll be taking my boat there in 5-6 weeks. Do you know if the color has to be back?
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29 August 2008, 00:10
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captnjack
Those would not be legal in the States. Numbers are required to be permanently attached to the boat here and on the forward part of the hull. They go with the hull/registration, not the owner upon sale.
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USCG seems to be pretty lenient when it comes to SIB's and numbers (at least down here in District 11.) I've seen boats with numbers so worn you couldn't trace them and read them, placards that were clipped on with carabiners or bolt clips, you name it.
jky
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