Transporting petrol

essjay2730 · 28 March 2019, 16:30

Driving down to Cornwall this summer with a bombard aerotec 380 in the boot. Will also have x2 25 litre quicksilver petrol fuel tanks with fuel in. Is there any requirement to display the red diamond warning side for flammable liquids on the rear of my vehicle. HSE websites seem to suggest not but wanted others' views or experiences. Thanks

willk · 28 March 2019, 17:22

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Originally Posted by essjay2730

HSE websites seem to suggest not but wanted others' views or experiences. Thanks

Personally, I'd not trouble the population by flagging up the fuel in the boot. I probably wouldn't make the big leg west with the fuel in the boot anyway, so the issue would only occur near the launch site when the main load was out.

xpertski · 28 March 2019, 18:48

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Originally Posted by willk

Personally, I'd not trouble the population by flagging up the fuel in the boot. I probably wouldn't make the big leg west with the fuel in the boot anyway, so the issue would only occur near the launch site when the main load was out.

Agree with this, better to fill up there - car won’t smell of petrol then [emoji106] and you won’t carry the extra 50kg weight. But if you travel with petrol I wouldn’t think there to be a need to notify anyone either - after all your car has a 50ltr tank of its own...

willk · 28 March 2019, 18:59

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Originally Posted by xpertski

] and you won’t carry the extra 50kg weight.

....well, 38.5kg, give or take. Or 2 suitcases worth

GuyC · 28 March 2019, 21:04

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Originally Posted by willk

....well, 38.5kg, give or take. Or 2 suitcases worth

Smartarse!

For info - petrol weighs 0.77kg per litre, diesel is 0.84kg per litre

willk · 28 March 2019, 21:14

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Originally Posted by GuyC

Smartarse!

Well maybe, but I handball a lot of liquids around in 25L drums, so I know just how different the loads really are. Mostly it's diesel - a 25L drum is pretty manageable at just over 20kg. I've shifted a fair bit of petrol and TBH, wouldn't notice the difference. I was caught by Sodium hypochlorite once when I headed off with a pair of drums that got real heavy real quick. I did the maths later - they had a combined weight of almost 60kg which meant I was carrying 3/4 of my bodyweight and kinda explained why I was totally horsed...

xpertski · 28 March 2019, 21:19

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Originally Posted by GuyC

Smartarse!

For info - petrol weighs 0.77kg per litre, diesel is 0.84kg per litre

Was thinking that myself [emoji23]

Perhaps add the weight of the cans themselves see if you can creep towards 50kg [emoji23]

CJL · 28 March 2019, 21:22

No you will be below the thresholds for CDR/ADR to come into play.

Chris

Pikey Dave · 28 March 2019, 21:22

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Originally Posted by willk

.....they had a combined weight of almost 60kg which meant I was carrying 3/4 of my bodyweight......

Hmmm, have you checked your maths[emoji848]?

willk · 28 March 2019, 21:22

C'mere yiz pair o' smartmouthed gobsh1tes - when yer fuel tank holds 467L and the extra deck tanks are being loaded - these little differences matter!

willk · 28 March 2019, 21:23

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Hmmm, have you checked your maths[emoji848]?

no

jeffstevens763@g · 29 March 2019, 10:38

i fill mine before i go always have no issues use the proper tank its legal then the only time i've had an issue is the tyne tunnel where they escorted me through years ago must have had a issue on it at the time been through since never been stopped.
just to add your car tank is probably plastic and fit for purpose without red stickers as is your boat tanks if you have the correct approved ones

Orwell boy · 29 March 2019, 10:46

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Originally Posted by GuyC

Smartarse!

For info - petrol weighs 0.77kg per litre, diesel is 0.84kg per litre

yes reading the original post ,will definitely be safer with diesel

paintman · 29 March 2019, 14:29

Always bought my fuel (petrol for one engine as it's an oil injected system & 2-stroke for the other) down there to keep the weight down.

Sainsbury's & Tesco in Helston. They do get a bit mardy if you try & fill more than 2 containers so I do two at one & one at the other as they're less than a mile apart.

Max... · 29 March 2019, 18:52

Regardless of any law or H&S requirements common sense says why on earth would you want to drive down there with 50 litres of petrol in two plastic containers in the boot??

When we drive down to Devon we just stop off at the local petrol station a few miles from the launch site.

Last Tango · 30 March 2019, 09:11

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Originally Posted by Max...

Regardless of any law or H&S requirements common sense says why on earth would you want to drive down there with 50 litres of petrol in two plastic containers in the boot??

When we drive down to Devon we just stop off at the local petrol station a few miles from the launch site.

+1.....Common sense.

Pikey Dave · 30 March 2019, 15:05

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Originally Posted by Last Tango

+1.....Common sense.

I think if you check the Ribnet rules, I’m sure one of them says:-
“Never let common sense get in the way of a good argument”[emoji6]

neil.mccrirrick · 30 March 2019, 16:10

Or the truth get in the way of a good story

willk · 30 March 2019, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

“Never let common sense get in the way of a good argument”[emoji6]

I remember getting a call one time from someone who was calling in a favour. He needed a RIB fuelled. It was "near" me. It needed a LOT of petrol.

In the end we purchased (after some delicate negotiation) 315L of gas, in plastic oil drums and drove it 15 miles to the RIB, in the Defender.

Try that down south :-)

GuyC · 30 March 2019, 22:15

Before we question his common sense too much the OP said he has two 25 litre tanks with fuel in which is not necessarily the same as wanting to transport 50 litres of fuel. It might be that he has two tanks each with a couple of litres in them.

I'd try and avoid transporting large quantities but I certainly wouldn't bring it to anyone's attention.