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21 March 2010, 21:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: gravesend
Boat name: curach/Earl
Make: seago/Lifeguard 4M
Length: under 3m
Engine: 3.3 marinar/10 hp
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Urgent Question
Hi all ,well pumped up the sib and has not stayed up for long,well floppy now,pumped up about 11 o clock to day,left sponsom goes down quicker ,can see a patch leaking on the right sponsom tube with soapy water,did not put the black covers on the A5 valves to day,would that make a difference to loosing air? and did see some air coming out of the right hand tube, near the transom with soapy water, tightened it up and it seemed ok,oh dear oh dear this boats got moe puncture's then a dart board,a bit down now,should beable to repair it
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21 March 2010, 22:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: bristol
Boat name: astra
Make: zodiac 340s
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp mariner
MMSI: 235905847
Join Date: Mar 2009
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I thought the valve seals were the caps that you screw on but could be wrong,I swear thats what it said in my manual. i will have a look and let you no.
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21 March 2010, 22:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thornbackflound
Hi all ,well pumped up the sib and has not stayed up for long,well floppy now,pumped up about 11 o clock to day,left sponsom goes down quicker ,can see a patch leaking on the right sponsom tube with soapy water,did not put the black covers on the A5 valves to day,would that make a difference to loosing air? and did see some air coming out of the right hand tube, near the transom with soapy water, tightened it up and it seemed ok,oh dear oh dear this boats got moe puncture's then a dart board,a bit down now,should beable to repair it
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Don't worry about the leaks mate, just get yourself some hypalon, a pot of this:-
http://www.polymarine.com/products/p...%5B1607%5D.cfm
and read the patching guide on here. It'll still be a good buy by the time you've sorted it out and you'll have more confidence in it.
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21 March 2010, 23:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: gravesend
Boat name: curach/Earl
Make: seago/Lifeguard 4M
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
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Cheers mate, thanks for the excellent links,i think you be right there,once you fix one ,then gotta be confident in fixing them,i tend to wrap my small one as as it were in cotton wool.lol,dreading when it needs a puncture repair and being paraniod about it ,so yes mate gonna get a kit and get on with it,lol
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21 March 2010, 23:25
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Country: UK - England
Town: gravesend
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Originally Posted by astra
I thought the valve seals were the caps that you screw on but could be wrong,I swear thats what it said in my manual. i will have a look and let you no.
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you be right there the valves screw in,i ment the black rubber caps that push in,must be the existing repair patchs,and possibly more punctures?
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22 March 2010, 10:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Dont get disheartened ,i have never yet bought a secondhand boat without any leaks in it ,one Zodiac boat that i bought second hand had been left in a garden and the sellers grandkids had gone around it with a garden fork whilst it was rolled up,had that many patches on it it looked like it had been machinegunned ,i still had many years of use out of it ,suppose the patches made it stronger dont forget ,you can always disguise over some patches with D rings or the like in some areas ,and for very tiny holes motorbike puncture patches are ok ,even the rnli use them at times especially on the underside.
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22 March 2010, 10:30
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Country: UK - Scotland
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Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
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As said, patchiong isnlt difficult, just make sure you follow the instructions!
And yes, the A7 valves do use the cap to seal. Are there rubber rings inside the cap?
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22 March 2010, 10:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
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just make sure that you use 2 pack glue and that the area of the patch is dry and free from moisture and is well rubbed down and buffed up with grit paper or a wire brush especially around the edges ,, take your time when you do it ,,most important is that the glue is dry to touch on both the boat and the patch before you firmly press down it down ,start at one end or in the middle so you dont get any air bubbles trapped and press/rub over it very firm with some thing hard ,i use a socket hande,,or hammer head.,,,,if you are going to do it outside pick a warm damp free day,, i patched mine up in the kitchen last xmas ,,gave the wife and her mates a shock when she cam back in from a night out ,,lol
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22 March 2010, 19:40
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Town: gravesend
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m chappelow
Dont get disheartened ,i have never yet bought a secondhand boat without any leaks in it ,one Zodiac boat that i bought second hand had been left in a garden and the sellers grandkids had gone around it with a garden fork whilst it was rolled up,had that many patches on it it looked like it had been machinegunned ,i still had many years of use out of it ,suppose the patches made it stronger dont forget ,you can always disguise over some patches with D rings or the like in some areas ,and for very tiny holes motorbike puncture patches are ok ,even the rnli use them at times especially on the underside.
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That did make me chuckle to day,looked like it had been Machinegunned,lol,when you say motorbike patchs ,are they differnt from push bike one's?gonna buy a roll of hypalon for the bigger patch's,mind you i can t see any gaping holes,ill have to check the seams,
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22 March 2010, 19:54
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Free orange hypalon patches (kinda)
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Originally Posted by thornbackflound
can you buy sheet of Hypalon on its own?
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I'm sure someone on here would flog/give you a few offcuts?
Or you could order a few FREE bits and £10 worth of stuff (spark-plugs or whatever) to make up the weight. It's your colour too
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