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27 May 2021, 15:05
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Yes that's a good out of the way posn.
Looking at mine again I'll not fit the towing eyes but carry them plus a dedicated spanner in the toolkit should the emergency arise... because my transom wheels don't have a top bracket just a drilled hole which the towing eye plus load spreading washers could use.
Which would place them very close to Chipko's posn.
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27 May 2021, 17:35
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Transom work finished. Ended up using some heavy duty PVC strips to cover the lower nuts, held by the floor stops.
The wheels are quite awkward to position and arguably I should have moved them closer to the centre so that fitting them in the up position is easier but then they would have begun to interfere with the engine.
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27 May 2021, 18:40
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Dont worry if you drill it wrong ! plenty more sibs arriving this week !!
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27 May 2021, 19:08
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Looking smart Tim, think your feelings about it being a bit snug in the boot of you car may be correct
PD have you got a pic of how your 350 wheels are set up?
Completely of topic - being a bit of a technophobe how do you post a pic in the middle of your thread?
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27 May 2021, 19:18
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Your clip in transom wheels look to be identical to the ones fitted to my Takacat. The brackets on mine are welded to the lower transom bar. If you look on takacat website and associated YouTube clips you should be able to see them.
They are bit fiddly to put back down into landing position when in the boat due to the buoyancy of the wheels. I managed to cut my hand on one occasion in the fight, leaving trails of blood over the boat and slipway! Mine are also very tight to the tubes when in the up position. Dealer currently trying to resolve. They Work fine once clipped in.
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28 May 2021, 06:59
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I've a feeling that I'll probably end up just stowing the wheels in the seat bag.
Pondering the safety line for the outboard today.
I seem to recall that there are two schools of thought, long line that lets the outboard be free from the boat if the worst happens or short line that helps prevent it coming free in the first instance.
On our Dories my father simply ran a short length of chain from the eye on the outboard down to an eye on the transom.
Any particular logic against this?
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28 May 2021, 07:18
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Also pondering weight of anchor.
Not all that likely to be dropping anchor outside of an emergency. Most common use will be as a safety measure above the tide line on a beach, so favouring a Bruce over grapnel.
The question is weight. Ideally I'm thinking about 3kg would be spot on but a lot of the stuff on sale is 2kg.
I'm not looking for overkill but nor under so what are people's thoughts on Bruce anchor weight for a 4m that isn't going to drop anchor and then be left.
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28 May 2021, 07:51
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Volante 390 has landed.
We’ve found a 2kg Bruce with between 2 and 4m of 6mm short link chain and 30m 8mm rope more than adequate for day to day use. In fact use the same set up on our 5m rib, with another 30m rope in reserve.
If you fancy splashing some cash then the super lightweight nylon Cooper Anchors are great. We have the blue 1kg jobbie.
https://cooperanchors.com/
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28 May 2021, 10:19
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Thanks. I would have thought a 2kg Bruce would suffice.
Finished set up this morning. Engine on (Fenlander, bonus points of you can spot something about the engine ).
Been walking it around the garden, up some slopes etc. Hauling it back up a slippery slipway will provide plenty of entertainment for onlookers.
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28 May 2021, 10:22
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PD have you got a pic of how your 350 wheels are set up?
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Dunno, I’ll have a look
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28 May 2021, 10:39
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We’ve found a 2kg Bruce with between 2 and 4m of 6mm short link chain and 30m 8mm rope more than adequate for day to day use. In fact use the same set up on our 5m rib, with another 30m rope in reserve.
If you fancy splashing some cash then the super lightweight nylon Cooper Anchors are great. We have the blue 1kg jobbie.
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I got the blue Cooper & a leaded line with about 2m of 8mm stainless chain I had hanging around. All nice & SIB friendly.
https://www.piratescave.co.uk/leaded...plice-30m.html
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28 May 2021, 10:47
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Any tricks to getting the oars to clip into the fasteners?
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28 May 2021, 10:56
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This is as good as I’ve got. It shows the plastic spacer block & the mounting arrangement for the sounder transducer.
The bottom of spacer block just clears the edge of the hull material where it’s glued to the transom. I’ve since swapped the wingnuts for drop nose clevis pins to make things easier. I’ve also replaced one of the Nyloc nuts on each bracket with an eye nut to give me a towing eye. I use the eye nut on the port side to attach my engine safety lanyard.
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28 May 2021, 11:00
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>>>Fenlander, bonus points of you can spot something about the engine
Well I'm confused as I thought you'd bought a Yamaha 15F 2-stroke like the one I sold recently and now it's a different Mariner... but you didn't upload any "full body" shots of the whole outboard before so perhaps I'm mistaken??
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28 May 2021, 11:08
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>>>Fenlander, bonus points of you can spot something about the engine
Well I'm confused as I thought you'd bought a Yamaha 15F 2-stroke like the one I sold recently and now it's a different Mariner... but you didn't upload any "full body" shots of the whole outboard before so perhaps I'm mistaken??
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That's the ticket. The engine is older than originally led to believe. It's early 90s. Still a Yamaha under the stickers.
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28 May 2021, 11:09
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>>>Pondering the safety line for the outboard today. I seem to recall that there are two schools of thought, long line that lets the outboard be free from the boat if the worst happens or short line that helps prevent it coming free in the first instance.
As you know I'm a bolt on guy these days however....
If you want a short line to prevent the OB leaving the transom you would need a short line from each side of the saddle going straight down to a fixing on the transom and the lines would have to be bar tight. Just one short line would be unlikely to prevent it twisting off with the forces involved. However like this it is possible the well secured OB could... if say striking an underwater object hard... decide to fall within the boat still running.
A longer line say a metre will allow the OB to fall away below the tubes a bit and run until it hydraulic locks.
A medium length line might allow the powerhead to remain above water and running without ingesting water as the prop attacks one or both tube ends.
Just my take on it.
BTW nice posh barn garage!
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28 May 2021, 13:55
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Thanks. Garage is remarkably handy for faffing about with stuff like this when it's perpetually raining!
Fitted the tow rack. The bag with the boat is just about manageable so long as it's just the boat. The seats, floor etc need to be in the boot with the engine and tank.
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28 May 2021, 14:43
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Quote:
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The bag with the boat is just about manageable so long as it's just the boat. The seats, floor etc need to be in the boot with the engine and tank
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Yep. Same monster I used to grapple with
Caravan was on the towball.
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28 May 2021, 14:55
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Good Lord! I imagine it would be easier to roll the car onto its side to fit that to the rack!!
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28 May 2021, 15:06
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Quote:
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Good Lord! I imagine it would be easier to roll the car onto its side to fit that to the rack!!
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I'm not strong. I had two sections of ladder. The boat/bag was strapped to the first, the second was fixed to the roof bars.
I found I could lean the boat ladder upright against the car ladder and kind of swing it into place singlehanded, then fix it down.
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