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31 October 2019, 01:33
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Hey guys - just found this thread - has anyone tried the Elling KB 350 yet?
@ Pecheur Anglais - did you get to try the one in Anglesey? I'd be interested in what you thought of it!
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31 October 2019, 08:31
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Town: Llanfairfechan
Boat name: Labrax
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Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
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Although the Boatworld guy said he would get in touch with the guy on Anglesey with one for me to possibly try, I heard nothing more. That, combined with arguments from experienced folk on here about performance being exaggerated put me off tbh.
Looked a really nice boat at the boat show, but decided it is not the boat for me.
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31 October 2019, 16:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Lincolnshire
Boat name: Mousetrap
Make: Zodiac Cadet 310S
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Engine: Mariner 4 stroke 9.9
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As others have hinted 30 mph with a 6 hp is so implausible as to be called an outright lie.
30 mph in that with any size of engine would be invigorating to say the least.
My Zodiac 310 with a 9.9 will do around 15 — 20 mph in perfect conditions.
I'm sure there is something cheaper and at least as good to be found, and with a more plausible set of performance claims.
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05 November 2019, 10:47
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Country: UK - England
Town: Chesterfield
Boat name: --
Make: Boatworld
Length: under 3m
Engine: Orca Outboard
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Elling 350 KB
I have asked Elling to confirm the speed they have achieved with the Elling 350KB and had the following back today.
The motors of all two cycles, the weight of 1 person is 80 kg.
6hp - 25 km / h
10hp - 35 km / h
18hp - 45 km / h
I have requested info with 4 stroke outboards and when I have I will post again.
Thanks
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05 November 2019, 10:48
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Country: UK - England
Town: Chesterfield
Boat name: --
Make: Boatworld
Length: under 3m
Engine: Orca Outboard
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Elling 350 KB
I have asked Elling to confirm the speed they have achieved with the Elling 350KB and had the following back today.
The motors of all two cycles, the weight of 1 person is 80 kg.
6hp - 25 km / h
10hp - 35 km / h
18hp - 45 km / h
I have requested info with 4 stroke outboards and when I have I will post again.
Thanks
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05 November 2019, 11:25
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Member
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Town: Chesterfield
Boat name: --
Make: Boatworld
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Engine: Orca Outboard
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Elling KB 350 ( From a Boatworld customer who owns one)
I am a 20stone + 60year old man with an arthritic right hand side hip so getting into a inflatable can be interesting
So I needed a inflatable that would carry a lot of weight plus fairly easy to inflate
I spend about 3-4 months on the internet looking around
Then a saw Boat world advertisement so I cam along to Chesterfield to have a look and when I was in your shop you had a Elling KB 350 on display
I started asking questions kg capacity 800kg with 500mm plus dia sides
Even though the Elling was twice the price a went for it and bought the boat frame 6hp outboard the full kit
I then put it in the water at Angelsey it was just the what I wanted I could sit on the side and spin my legs round and slide onto the seat no issues with it tilting or nearly tipping over I was in no
Drama’s brill
Then I loaded 3 grand children and the wife and off we went the boat is so stable in the water it feels safe good fun the 6hp engine uses about 2-3ltrs of fuel all day
It really is has good as it gets
I have fitted wheels and I can pull it in and out of the sea on my own no problem
Cheers Boatworld
Steve and all the Grand Children roll on next summer
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05 November 2019, 11:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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Thanks for updating those speeds vs HP figures Boatworld. They are much more realistic with, for example, the 6hp making 13.5kts which compares give or take a bit with The Gurnard on here who achieves 15kts with a 6HP on his small Frib one-up.
I think the KB350 looks very interesting and the initial over ambitious speed claims were my main concern. I do hope someone on here buys one so we can have feedback from a forum member.
It has to be said your happy customer describes an experience that would be found with most air floor inflatables around 3.5m.
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09 November 2019, 08:48
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Member
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Town: Lincolnshire
Boat name: Mousetrap
Make: Zodiac Cadet 310S
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 4 stroke 9.9
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatworld
I have asked Elling to confirm the speed they have achieved with the Elling 350KB and had the following back today.
The motors of all two cycles, the weight of 1 person is 80 kg.
6hp - 25 km / h
10hp - 35 km / h
18hp - 45 km / h
I have requested info with 4 stroke outboards and when I have I will post again.
Thanks
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Most English customers will think in mph and the keener boaty types may think in knots.
A mile is 1.609 km.
A nautical mile is "a mile + VAT" or about 1.2 miles.
25 kmh = 15 mph which is 12.5 kts
35 kmh = 21.75 mph which is 18 kts
45 kmh = 28 mph which is 23.33 kts
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09 November 2019, 23:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikefule
A mile is 1.609 km.
A nautical mile is "a mile + VAT" or about 1.2 miles.
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1.15 nautical miles to the statute mile.
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10 November 2019, 10:06
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Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
about 1.15 nautical miles to the statute mile.
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FTFY
Hang on a minute........or 1852m to be precise [emoji6]
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10 November 2019, 11:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
FTFY
Hang on a minute........or 1852m to be precise [emoji6]
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I was sticking with the accuracy to 2 decimal places approach...
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10 November 2019, 12:35
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Town: South Yorks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I was sticking with the accuracy to 2 decimal places approach...
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Ach!! Call yourself a scientist [emoji1]
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10 November 2019, 20:10
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test post
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10 November 2019, 21:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I was sticking with the accuracy to 2 decimal places approach...
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Which is all very well except you got it back to front!
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10 November 2019, 21:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Lincolnshire
Boat name: Mousetrap
Make: Zodiac Cadet 310S
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1.2 miles expressed to 1 decimal place rounding in the usually accepted way.
1.15 miles expressed to 2 decimal places.
My main point was that the earlier post expressing boat speeds in KMH was using a comparatively small unit (kilometre) to produce a high "per hour" figure.
As very few people in the UK think in kmh, especially for boats I felt it needed highlighting.
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12 November 2019, 10:29
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Llanfairfechan
Boat name: Labrax
Make: Quicksilver
Length: under 3m
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikefule
1.2 miles expressed to 1 decimal place rounding in the usually accepted way.
1.15 miles expressed to 2 decimal places.
My main point was that the earlier post expressing boat speeds in KMH was using a comparatively small unit (kilometre) to produce a high "per hour" figure.
As very few people in the UK think in kmh, especially for boats I felt it needed highlighting.
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Would love to use 2 decimal places for VAT if that would get it back down from 20% to 15%
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