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30 November 2005, 13:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
Make: Avon 5.4, Avon 3.4,
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90, Merc 30
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What sort of speed can I expect?
From a 2.8 metre Zodiac SIB, with a 2hp 2stroke evinrude with an inflatable floor please? thanks guys
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30 November 2005, 13:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
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Probably not even fast enough to plane
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30 November 2005, 14:09
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ollyit
From a 2.8 metre Zodiac SIB, with a 2hp 2stroke evinrude with an inflatable floor please? thanks guys
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5mph from what I read in a yachtie mag the other day.
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30 November 2005, 14:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
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i had a bombard ax 3 with a 2 hp yamaha, the daughter loved it but is was oh soooooooooooo slllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooowwwww wwwwwwwwww.
basically it will be so slow you will be amazed, if you had a 4 or 5 hp you might be able to get it to plane if the boat had a flat bottom. but an 8hp or 9.9 would be a lot better.
2hp are very light though!!
so 3 to 5 mph down wind down stream down hill !!!
oh and when you open it up....it just gets louder!!
it defo wont plane trust me
ignore codders as he only knows what he has read in a magazine.......i have actually owned one of these awsome powerful 2hp engines and i know all about em, the acceleration and performance, breathtaking.
fuel economy is quite good, about a cup full will last you a week!!
only sold it as i could swim faster...upgraded to a 4hp!!!
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30 November 2005, 14:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
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It depends!
When I were a lad (1980s) we had an Avon redstart with a 2hp Evinrude. About 9' long, wooden floorboards (so had a flat bottom) and with the bolt on type outboard bracket.
The floorboards were braced by some non-standard longitudinals and the outboard bracket could be prevented from wrapping itself under the boat by lashing this to an eye in the after board
On flat water if you locked the steering straight ahead and steered by transferring your weight or by kicking the tiller, whilst lying down on the inflatable seat, it would plane. Just.
A mate had a "GB" inflatable of about the same size but with a hard transom. With floorboards. That would plane easily with his Merc 2.2hp.
Went even better with the restrictor plate taken out of the carb - 3.3hp instantly for no expenditure.
Small boats are fun.
It's all down to correct weight positioning, weight vs. power and finally bottom shape.
Three years at University studying Naval Architecture just confirmed what I knew when I was ten
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30 November 2005, 15:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
Make: Avon 5.4, Avon 3.4,
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90, Merc 30
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Thanks guys! some good opinions there, keep em coming good or bad
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30 November 2005, 15:05
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Parents had a 3m SIB with a 2hp, very slow and only any good as a tender (but lots of fun).
I used to have a mirror dinghy which I rigged with 2 x 2hp yammies. Once I had remembered to plug the centerboard casing it was great. Could turn on a 6 pence (engines were controlled individually). Progressed to a Zodiac 4m with old evinrude 35 - faster (felt very fast) but turning was very poor.
A friend had one of those hexagon shaped avon SIB's (under 3m) with a 15 and that was downright dangerous.
My guess is you would get about 6kts
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30 November 2005, 15:11
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Olly
Why?
Nasher
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30 November 2005, 15:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
Make: Avon 5.4, Avon 3.4,
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Engine: Yamaha 90, Merc 30
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I bought a bargain evinrude 2hp
possbile sib in the pipeline, just for a laff
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30 November 2005, 15:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard B
Probably not even fast enough to plane
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Are you 'avin a larf?!!! It'll be barely fast enough to make headway!! A mate of mine has a 2.8m Wetline with an inflatable keel bag with a 4hp Johnson on it. That'll only just plane with coaxing with a kid driving.
We have a 2.3m Quicksilver, I put a 5hp Tohatsu on that. Now that was fun! It was a little wave jumper.
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30 November 2005, 15:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
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2hp would be plenty behind a polystyrene surfboard!
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30 November 2005, 15:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
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Engine: Yamaha 90, Merc 30
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i get the drift!!!
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30 November 2005, 15:51
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Ollys, heres a post I made a while a go:
http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread....ht=bombard+ax2
I ve had a Suzy 2, Honda 2hp 4 stroke and a Yamaha Malta 3hp. Had them all on a bombard 2m SIB and now got an Avon R280 air deck.
With the 2hp Suzuki on the AX2 it just planed with a light person in it, 10 knots gps. But you have to remember the Ax2 is tiny and very light, this was also on flat water. You can have a lot of fun with a 5hp+ on an air deck, unless your 20 stone in which case it won't plane.
Heres an AX2, tiny!:
http://www.boat-finder.com/images/bo...y6463idx_1.jpg
Alex
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30 November 2005, 16:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
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nice one thanks ads dont worry not getting rid of the searider
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30 November 2005, 16:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
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my ax3 with a 2 on it would never plane even if you performed unnatural acts on it but with the 4hp it would plane if you leant over the front a bit to get it started
if i put me 2 yr old in the ax3 with a 2hp it might have planed but the ax2 and 3 have flat bottoms so once you get up on the plane it is like steering a tray!!
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30 November 2005, 16:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: liverpool
Boat name: summer
Make: tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: 115 yam outboard 2st
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hi i have a 2.8 avon rover fiber glass bottom but quite flat and a yam 2 st short shaft 9.9 1 up [14 stone] flys dont know how fast but fast.2 up 26 stone about as fast as u can ride a bike 3 up nearly 40 stone still planes
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30 November 2005, 17:10
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Now back to being Mollers!
Country: UK - England
Town: Arundel
Boat name: Mike Bravo 1
Make: Scorp
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yanmar 300
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I prefer long shafts myself.
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30 November 2005, 17:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alice
I prefer long shafts myself.
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Cheeky minx You need to slip on down to Cornwall, It's the home of the long shafts. .
Mining heritage JK.
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30 November 2005, 17:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
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Quote:
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i get the drift!!!
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Drifting would be quicker!!
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30 November 2005, 18:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
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yours might be a long shaft but some folks have extra long shafts!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollulnan
Cheeky minx You need to slip on down to Cornwall, It's the home of the long shafts. .
Mining heritage JK.
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