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11 June 2014, 00:53
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Country: Canada
Boat name: WB465
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 2013 ETEC 30
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What trim pin do you run your outboard in?
If you have electric trim, don't bother responding.
If you don't then what trim pin hole do you use on your outboard?
(1) closest to transom ... (5) furthest away (up)
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11 June 2014, 01:47
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Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Will depend entirely on transom's angle, all transom angle are not built same, trim to a hole that achieves AV plate and boat running paralell to water level and engine sitting at 90° once on plane. Check..
Wild guessing is never good...
Happy Boating
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11 June 2014, 01:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Boat name: Salty Cheeks
Make: Honwave
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20hp 2stroke Mariner
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectile
If you have electric trim, don't bother responding.
If you don't then what trim pin hole do you use on your outboard?
(1) closest to transom ... (5) furthest away (up)
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Hi
I run my engine at pos 2,no bow steer have a little test, you should be able to find a sweet spot.
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11 June 2014, 03:52
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Member
Country: Canada
Boat name: WB465
Make: Zodiac
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Thanks, Loco.
I'm just curious to know if there is a trend, or if it's all over the map, so the question still stands.
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11 June 2014, 07:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
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Irrelevant really as it depends on each individual boat/engine/loading/weight distribution/sea state etc. But......typically on the typical RIBnet SIB set up it is probably a couple out?
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11 June 2014, 08:54
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Country: Other
Town: Madrid-Almeria
Boat name: SEPIA
Make: honwave
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda BF20
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 197
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Me 2nd.
I have too many variability in passengers number (thus weight and distribution) to fiddle it each time.
I do not launch from the beach: my boat is moored tied to a buoy at 200 meters from beach. I have to boat/unboat passengers at a nautic channel in the beach, sometimes with waves shaking the whole pack, so it has to be "up and go".
So 2nd works fine enough most of the time.
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11 June 2014, 09:02
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Town: Oop North
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There's only 3 pin positions on my 15hp Mercury, position 2 seems to be the best for my Bombard.
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11 June 2014, 09:30
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Isle of Lewis
Boat name: Macleod Special
Make: Mako Thundercat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70ces
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Theres a lot of variables involved with trim.
On my thundercat i use trim 2 with 5mm negative trim spacer for my 18p chopper
trim 1 with 17mm negative trim spacer for my 18p cleaver
trim 2 no spacer for my 15p bunny
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11 June 2014, 21:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorkshire
Boat name: Sold it !
Length: 3m +
Engine: Totallyhotsue 9.8 2S
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I'm in 2nd
I have 1-5 to choose from.
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12 June 2014, 02:53
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Country: Canada
Boat name: WB465
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roflhat
Theres a lot of variables involved with trim.
On my thundercat i use trim 2 with 5mm negative trim spacer for my 18p chopper
trim 1 with 17mm negative trim spacer for my 18p cleaver
trim 2 no spacer for my 15p bunny
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What's a negative trim spacer?
What's am 18p chopper?
What's an 18p cleaver?
What's a 15p bunny?
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12 June 2014, 02:57
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Country: Canada
Boat name: WB465
Make: Zodiac
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
Irrelevant really as it depends on each individual boat/engine/loading/weight distribution/sea state etc. But......typically on the typical RIBnet SIB set up it is probably a couple out?
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How can a poll be irrelevant? For instance, perhaps we'll find that nobody uses positions 3 through 5. That would be interesting wouldn't it? Perhaps we'll find that 50% of people use position 1 an 50% use position 2. That would be interesting, too, wouldn't it? Or if 80% of people use position 1?
Yes, I know it depends on many conditions, but I'm sure that folks don't bother to change trim holes because of the hassle. I suspect that the vast majority of folks find the one most versatile position and use it most of the time.
I'm trying to find out if there is one or 2 positions that work well for most people, or if it is all over the map.
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12 June 2014, 02:59
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Country: Canada
Boat name: WB465
Make: Zodiac
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I use position #1. I get too much cavitation (or ventilation, whatever you want to call it) in #2 and #3 is just ridiculous.
A tech at the Inflatable Boat Centre (a huge dealer for inflatables on the West coast of the US) told me that most users use position 1 or 0. I imagine that position 0 means that the trim pin is removed.
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12 June 2014, 08:06
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mar 60/20/3.5/Hon2.3
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I use position 3 of 5, and AV plate about 10mm below keel.
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12 June 2014, 09:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: St Helens
Boat name: Wine Down
Make: Maxum
Length: 8m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectile
What's am 18p chopper?
What's an 18p cleaver?
What's a 15p bunny?
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Chopper
Cleaver
Bunny
Dont you have Google in Canada
Seriously, they are all types of prop. The negative trim spacer allows you to change the angle of the engine saddle.
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12 June 2014, 10:01
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Isle of Lewis
Boat name: Macleod Special
Make: Mako Thundercat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70ces
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectile
What's a negative trim spacer?
What's am 18p chopper?
What's an 18p cleaver?
What's a 15p bunny?
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Basically a black of wood used to space the top of the engine out, so trim 1 is effectively like having a trim -1 or -2.
choppers and cleavers are both surface-piercing propellers used in high speed applications, so the setup on them won't really relate to standard propellers. A bunny prop is just a standard looking prop, because of the shape of blade, known as "bunny ear".
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Originally Posted by Landlockedpirate
Chopper
Cleaver
Bunny
Dont you have Google in Canada
Seriously, they are all types of prop. The negative trim spacer allows you to change the angle of the engine saddle.
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12 June 2014, 10:13
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: Top Banana
Make: Scorpion 9m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 421STI
MMSI: Yeah right!
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectile
What's a chopper?
What's a cleaver?
What's a bunny?
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I can hear Hugh Hefner spinning in his grave....
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12 June 2014, 16:25
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrowboy
I can hear Hugh Hefner spinning in his grave....
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I'm wondering if this is like a spun bushing since Hugh Hefner is very much alive.
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12 June 2014, 21:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorkshire
Boat name: Sold it !
Length: 3m +
Engine: Totallyhotsue 9.8 2S
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectile
What's a negative trim spacer?
What's am 18p chopper?
What's an 18p cleaver?
What's a 15p bunny?
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Projectile try this
Let me google that for you
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15 June 2014, 18:07
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Member
Country: Canada
Boat name: WB465
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 2013 ETEC 30
Join Date: Dec 2012
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So there have been 6 responses :
position 0 (presumably this means pin removed): nobody
position 1: 1 person
position 2: 4 folks
position 3: 1 person
position 4: nobody
position 5: nobody
Position 2 seems to be the preferred choice for 2 out of 3 Sibbers.
Anybody else want to chime in?
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15 June 2014, 20:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
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See, told you it was irrelevant. A couple out just like I said!
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