what will I need?

[Ribochet]

Originally Posted by ian parkes

don't worry about chain on the anchor for a sib

[ian parkes]

Originally Posted by Ribochet

I take it you disagree ? , more important is the right anchor . Why not comment or discuss instead of an emoticon

[bingosucks]

Originally Posted by ian parkes

don't worry about chain on the anchor for a sib , its not needed and just damages the deck , or air floor . Don't worry you will give up long long before the sib will .

My advice is to take a decent webbing climbing sling or two and find a place on the top of tubes about 750mm infront of where you sit and loop it though to hold onto , your passenger will want one too and they are also useful to pull yourself or someone else back into the boat should you fall out , or go for a swim . Holding the ropes on the tubes will soon have your hands raw and knuckles chafed on the tubes .

make an elastic loop from 6mm bungee cord that fits snug around your wrist and conect the kill cord to that , Kill cord for tiller steer is better on your throttle hand than leg , When you get out drop the loop over the tiller so the kill cord doesn't get lost or pulled off and it will be there to remind you when you next grab the tiller .

take some rope to tie your kit bag in the bow as it will bounce back constantly when underway , and get all your kit in a decent bag to keep it in place .

Great idea i t

[bingosucks]

Fat fingers ...great idea i nearly ripped my knuckles to shreds so i will add something like that

[Glow]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Where? I find the postage from buying them online can outweigh any savings as they have to be carried by an ADR licenced carrier.

I'd be interested to know if you found somewhere useful.

These seem to be reasonable for online flares Marine Safety Equipment

£7 for post.

[Chris Caton]

Originally Posted by ian parkes

I take it you disagree ? , more important is the right anchor . Why not comment or discuss instead of an emoticon

I use a weighted rope for the anchor instead of chain, saves dragging chain over the tubes, works well enough for us as we don't go ribbing in heavy seas, never seen much fun in getting battered n bruised I've just made an extension with carbine clips so we can extend the rope if needed, seems to do the job up to now

Liros Leaded Rope Anchor Line - 30m x 10mm - Only £89.95 - Force 4 Chandlery

[Ribochet]

Originally Posted by ian parkes

I take it you disagree ?

Yes

Originally Posted by ian parkes

more important is the right anchor

Isn't always

Originally Posted by ian parkes

Why not comment or discuss instead of an emoticon

No problems

In my world all conventional wisdow and experience has it that chain added to the end of an anchor reduces the force on the anchor shank by decreasing the angle of pull between the rode and the sea bed thus maximizing the anchor's holding power . It also has the added advance of reducing chafing on the sea bed.

There is therefore no reason to throw out this wisdow "just" because you are talking about a SIB.

This is the anchor/rode/storage bag that I have been using in my Hondwave 3.8 airdeck for the last 5 years with no damage

[whisper]

Go out with a buddy (another boat) if you can, really takes the pressure off

[PeterM]

Originally Posted by whisper

Go out with a buddy (another boat) if you can, really takes the pressure off

Who can tow your boat out when you realise it's letting water in like a sieve ....eh whisper

Or tow you home when you cook the engine ..eh AJ

Or jump start your car ...eh..oh me!

Or pop a tube leaving the marina..oh me again!!!

[whisper]

Originally Posted by PeterM

Who can tow your boat out when you realise it's letting water in like a sieve ....eh whisper

Or tow you home when you cook the engine ..eh AJ

Or jump start your car ...eh..oh me!

Or pop a tube leaving the marina..oh me again!!!

[ShinyShoe]

Originally Posted by Ribochet

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A grapnel is probably never the right anchor!

Its all about compromise.

4m of chain shouldn't bee too tricky to handle on a SIB. Possibly easier than the "right" anchor. And its only the right anchor if you have the right ground under you...

[Downhilldai]

I use a 2kg grapnel, a couple of metres of 6mm chain and 15m of 8mm 3-strand rope for anchoring the SIB. All this is stored in a cheap nylon rucksack.

There's extra rope kept onboard, should I need to anchor in deeeeeep water.

Works well.

[ian parkes]

Originally Posted by Ribochet

Yes



Isn't always



No problems

In my world all conventional wisdow and experience has it that chain added to the end of an anchor reduces the force on the anchor shank by decreasing the angle of pull between the rode and the sea bed thus maximizing the anchor's holding power . It also has the added advance of reducing chafing on the sea bed.

There is therefore no reason to throw out this wisdow "just" because you are talking about a SIB.

This is the anchor/rode/storage bag that I have been using in my Hondwave 3.8 airdeck for the last 5 years with no damage

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I know all the reasons behind the need for anchor chain and used to use a honda 3.8 like yours with a folding grapnel and some chain , ok on a rocky bottom , but in the sand and mud we have here it was next to useless , it would drag with even a gentle tide or wind . I Got myself a small bruce anchor on advice from the folks here and didn't even need the chain . even now with the small rib i have the same small bruce anchor and just 2.5m of chain works even in surf
Try and pull in a small bruce from the shore over sand mud or shingle which is almost always where you need moor a sib then compare it to a folding grapnel add as much chain as you can lift and it still drags .
It works well on rocky weedy bottom too
just my experience and trial and error and its not like you moor a sib overnight or for a long time.
I think you will find the small RNLI sibs use a spade type sand anchor and no chain .

[Ribochet]

Originally Posted by ian parkes

I know all the reasons behind the need for anchor chain and used to use a honda 3.8 like yours with a folding grapnel and some chain , ok on a rocky bottom , but in the sand and mud we have here it was next to useless , it would drag with even a gentle tide or wind .

Originally Posted by ShinyShoe

A grapnel is probably never the right anchor!
Its all about compromise.
4m of chain shouldn't bee too tricky to handle on a SIB. Possibly easier than the "right" anchor. And its only the right anchor if you have the right ground under you...

Oh dear!!!, sorry, it must be my imagination but I could have sworn I had used that exact grapnel/rode to also anchor a RIB during countless PB2 courses over the years and it never once dragged especially in mud.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Ribochet

Oh dear!!!, sorry, it must be my imagination but I could have sworn I had used that exact grapnel/rode to also anchor a RIB during countless PB2 courses over the years and it never once dragged especially in mud.

Would that be the anchor in bouncer Joe