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09 February 2020, 20:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: DEREHAM
Boat name: EDDISON FRIB
Make: F-RIB 360
Length: 3m +
Engine: TOHATSU 9.8
Join Date: Oct 2019
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When is brand new not brand new?
I have just noticed that my new F-rib is 4 years old. It was bought from a dealrship for full price as a brand new boat. It clearly has never been used. What are my options? I bought it in good faith as new boat almost straight off the production line. TIA, Eddie
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09 February 2020, 21:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Originally Posted by Eddzoid
I have just noticed that my new F-rib is 4 years old. It was bought from a dealrship for full price as a brand new boat. It clearly has never been used. What are my options? I bought it in good faith as new boat almost straight off the production line. TIA, Eddie
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Tricky one that. If you didn’t know how old it was, it wouldn’t be a problem. For all intents & purposes it’s “new” in such that it hasn’t been used & you are the first owner.
Is it still the current model, have there been any changes since it was manufactured to the current model? I could only see a problem if the boat had a limited life expectancy due to glue/fabric etc.
If it was me, I’d contact the seller & explain your dissatisfaction & ask what they are prepared to do to make you happy.
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09 February 2020, 21:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: DEREHAM
Boat name: EDDISON FRIB
Make: F-RIB 360
Length: 3m +
Engine: TOHATSU 9.8
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 44
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Thanks Dave. I only found out it's age when they emailed the the Certificate of Conformity. 09/06/16. I was just wondering if this had happened to anyone before. I will speak to them tomorrow.
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09 February 2020, 21:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,499
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Dave, said it all really. Very odd that an importer or retailer should be holding such old stock. I know the small boat industry guys don’t work on ‘JIT’ manufacturing but selling a 2016 boat in 2019/2020 is a bit extreme.
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09 February 2020, 21:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: DEREHAM
Boat name: EDDISON FRIB
Make: F-RIB 360
Length: 3m +
Engine: TOHATSU 9.8
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 44
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Is there a normal UK lifespan of a PVC boat?
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09 February 2020, 22:02
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,997
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>>>Is there a normal UK lifespan of a PVC boat?
It's the glue that usually fails first. To give an example with Zodiac/Bombard there were a few forum members going back a couple of years who suffered the common failure of glue bond between tube and transom on their Aerotecs… these boats were mostly around 15yrs old.
So in the case of those if sold one 4yrs old as new then you'd lost 27% of the failure free life.
The Aerotec I bought "new" in 2015 was a 2014 showroom display model (knew that when buying) and reduced by 20% plus for that reason.
I'd be trying for a similar claim to the Frib dealer.
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09 February 2020, 22:03
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
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Originally Posted by Eddzoid
I only found out it's age when they emailed the Certificate of Conformity. 09/06/16......
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Are you certain that is the date of manufacture? From the way you word it, it could be the date that the COC was registered. That would be before the first boat of that type/model was certificated.
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09 February 2020, 22:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini + XS
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140/merc 60
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,300
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Originally Posted by Eddzoid
Thanks Dave. I only found out it's age when they emailed the the Certificate of Conformity. 09/06/16. I was just wondering if this had happened to anyone before. I will speak to them tomorrow.
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Is that a certificate of conformity for your boat with seial number ?,or is it a certificate for the range of boats when it was first inspected and certified as conforming ? ...just a thought
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09 February 2020, 22:12
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,028
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Sounds like the certificate of conformity was first issued for that model in 2016. Check the hull no on the boat last two digits are year of manufacture
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09 February 2020, 22:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: DEREHAM
Boat name: EDDISON FRIB
Make: F-RIB 360
Length: 3m +
Engine: TOHATSU 9.8
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 44
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I believe it is the C of C for my boat. Has a Hull number on it.
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09 February 2020, 22:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: DEREHAM
Boat name: EDDISON FRIB
Make: F-RIB 360
Length: 3m +
Engine: TOHATSU 9.8
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 44
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It has a Watercraft ID number : - GB FIB xxxxxG 919
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09 February 2020, 22:26
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambridgeshire
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,997
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Well that looks like a 2019??
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09 February 2020, 22:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: DEREHAM
Boat name: EDDISON FRIB
Make: F-RIB 360
Length: 3m +
Engine: TOHATSU 9.8
Join Date: Oct 2019
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Brilliant. Sounds like panic over. C oc C for June 2016 = boat made in 2019. How bizarre. Thanks guys for your help.
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09 February 2020, 22:36
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,028
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Originally Posted by Eddzoid
Brilliant. Sounds like panic over. C oc C for June 2016 = boat made in 2019. How bizarre. Thanks guys for your help.
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The certificate of conformity is for the model of the boat sometimes even a range of lengths but the last two digits of the hull no are the important nos giving the year of manufacture
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09 February 2020, 22:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: DEREHAM
Boat name: EDDISON FRIB
Make: F-RIB 360
Length: 3m +
Engine: TOHATSU 9.8
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 44
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Thanks again. 👍
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10 February 2020, 12:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddzoid
Thanks again. [emoji106]
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Aaaand breeeeathe[emoji106]
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10 February 2020, 13:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: DEREHAM
Boat name: EDDISON FRIB
Make: F-RIB 360
Length: 3m +
Engine: TOHATSU 9.8
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 44
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10 February 2020, 17:25
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Member
Country: USA
Town: California
Make: zodiac futura
Length: 4m +
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 259
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My future mk ll was 5 years old. Paper work said it was shipped from Zodiac when 2 years old at a discount to dealer. They used it as the floor model. Kept inside for the 3 years on display. Except for the marks of an outboard being mounted the boat was unmarked. I was told all this upfront. The cost to me was 40% off regular sales price.
The worst part of your deal might be the lack of disclosure.
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11 February 2020, 17:06
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,998
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How do you know the tube's fabric is PVC , bought it as such. FRibs sell Hypalon fabrics as well.
Happy Boating
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