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Old 22 June 2013, 08:18   #1
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Will a Honwave T38 inflatable floor with 9.9 hp plane

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I'm looking for advice on whether a honwave t38-ie would plane well with a 9.9hp 4 stroke mariner?

I'm stuck with the dilemma of outboard weight as the package will be used while caravaning. The boat would be carrying 2 adults and 2 children .....say about 200kg;with the boat itself just under 50kg.

Could go for higher HP on a 2 stroke but there's nothing around just now.

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Old 22 June 2013, 08:37   #2
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Doubtful but if it does only just after a lot of weight shifting. You really need a 2 stroke 15 minimum.
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Old 22 June 2013, 08:56   #3
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My Zodiac 3.6m Fastroller planed with ease with my Mariner 9.9 4-stroke with 2 1/2 up (approx 190kg + 10+ litres fuel + kit) on a relatively calm sea. I think it topped out at just over 12 kts and remained on the plane possibly right down to 1/2 throttle.

I was pleased how quick it popped up on the plane, the Mariner was very willing. Remember that the 4-stroke has significantly more cc than the similar HP 2-stroke versions so will have more torque.
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Old 22 June 2013, 10:20   #4
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Its marginal, It will probably plane on flat water with weight distributed towards the bow. The Zodiac above will plane much easier than the HonWave because it has a flatter planing area than the V hull of the Honda.

However the moment you hit a wave or drop from WOT its going to fall off the plane. IMHO 9.9 on the T38 isnt enough, look for a nice 15-25 hp 2 stroke, theres nothing worse than wanting more power but you can always turn the throttle down if you want to go slower.
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Old 22 June 2013, 10:24   #5
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My Honwave 3.8 would do 18kts with a Honda 20 4 stroke. That was with 2 up and lots of kit.
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Old 22 June 2013, 11:23   #6
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My Zodiac 3.6m Fastroller planed with ease with my Mariner 9.9 4-stroke with 2 1/2 up (approx 190kg + 10+ litres fuel + kit) on a relatively calm sea. I think it topped out at just over 12 kts and remained on the plane possibly right down to 1/2 throttle.

I was pleased how quick it popped up on the plane, the Mariner was very willing. Remember that the 4-stroke has significantly more cc than the similar HP 2-stroke versions so will have more torque.
That's impressive and unusual.

My 3.4 very light air floor with 15hp 2 stroke Twat, 2 light adults, 2 small under 10 kids and minimal load needs careful distribution and a good run to plane on a flat river and will hit 14 kts. Me and the 10 year old plane easy though and max at around 17 kts.
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Old 22 June 2013, 16:19   #7
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Probably, that is if air top inflated, well ballanced, trimed, engine sitting at proper height. If doesn't plane, will just achieve fast displacement speeds, but will take you there, longer though..

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Old 22 June 2013, 18:08   #8
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We had mariner 9.9 4 stroke on our bombard c2 3.5m inflatable with an aluminium floor, so a lot heavier than the honwave and that would plane happily with 2 and if we sat everyone right forward it would plane with 3. I was amazed
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Old 24 June 2013, 21:48   #9
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Thanks all. Good to hear as i'm restricted to a 9.9 Max for portability reasons
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Old 25 June 2013, 09:26   #10
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I'll stick my neck out and say that it would not plane with four up. Many Sibs have flatter underwater profiles and ride on their tubes. The honwave has a comparitively large underwater profile so needs a bit more oomph to get it planing. I too had a Honwave 3.8 with 20hp. It was quick with one adult, but would plough a bit with any more than two until nearing WOT. Hope that helps.
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Old 25 June 2013, 11:23   #11
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Thanks all. Good to hear as i'm restricted to a 9.9 Max for portability reasons
Let us know how you get on. It 'technically' planing (eventually) is one thing but actually being practical, fun and a good match is another alltogether and you could end up very frustrated.
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