Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 25 June 2020, 20:05   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Das float
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury thunder 20hp
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 32
Zodiac 2250 Classic repair advice

Recently brought an old Zodiac Classic 2250.
The deck boards had seen better days so i varnished them before doing anything else.
Tonight j went to put them in snd assemble the boat so i could start working on replaceing a couple of old patches underneath and became aware of the front brace movring freely on the portside. On further inspection the patch that envelopes the end of the brace and attaches it to the floor/tube has come away from the wood completely.
Has anyone in this group ever repaired anything like this or have any top tips ?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200625_191544.jpg
Views:	83
Size:	95.4 KB
ID:	133723   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200625_191527.jpg
Views:	96
Size:	96.5 KB
ID:	133724  
__________________
Splash gordon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 June 2020, 23:33   #2
Member
 
Peter_C's Avatar
 
Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,108
The Hypalon looks to be in pretty good shape, and can be cleaned and reused. How is the rest of the glue doing around the entire boat? Trying picking at different areas. Only separation is at the wood? Wood joints seem to always fail first.

Use a heat gun to remove all poor glue joints and reglue. Sand the wood, and follow the glue manufacturers directions. Temperature and humidity are very important.
__________________
Peter_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2020, 10:03   #3
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Das float
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury thunder 20hp
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 32
yeah this is the only spot that is not in good shape.
When you say temperature and humidity its warm and dry right now. I assume this is ideal ?
__________________
Splash gordon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 June 2020, 22:22   #4
Member
 
Peter_C's Avatar
 
Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,108
The glue manufacturer you choose will have good directions on temp and humidity.

Cleaning and prep are the most important parts of the job. All old glue must be removed. Scuffy pad is my preference, I believe the one I like is in the link below, but would need to put eyes on it. You want open pores to hold the glue coming off and not something scratchy that will damage the fabric. I cut them into strips and set up a small dipping cup with Acetone. Toulene is banned for purchase, as is MEK here.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3241245&rt=rud

Good neoprene butyl gloves will protect your hands. They should be like dishwashing gloves coming up closer to the elbow. Disposable gloves are worthless.

Here is a basic video. I prefer a roller for seating the fabric. Also use a different tool for scuffing the surface.


Tools from a USA website.
https://www.amazon.com/Roller-Rasp-V...1856003&sr=8-1

The rollers can be found under "sound deadening roller" "wall paper roller" and probably a few other names that include "roller". Something like this set. (Good for drysuit seal repairs too!)
https://www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Deade...856047&sr=8-10
__________________
Peter_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 June 2020, 23:19   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Das float
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury thunder 20hp
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_C View Post
The glue manufacturer you choose will have good directions on temp and humidity.

Cleaning and prep are the most important parts of the job. All old glue must be removed. Scuffy pad is my preference, I believe the one I like is in the link below, but would need to put eyes on it. You want open pores to hold the glue coming off and not something scratchy that will damage the fabric. I cut them into strips and set up a small dipping cup with Acetone. Toulene is banned for purchase, as is MEK here.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3241245&rt=rud

Good neoprene butyl gloves will protect your hands. They should be like dishwashing gloves coming up closer to the elbow. Disposable gloves are worthless.

Here is a basic video. I prefer a roller for seating the fabric. Also use a different tool for scuffing the surface.


Tools from a USA website.
https://www.amazon.com/Roller-Rasp-V...1856003&sr=8-1

The rollers can be found under "sound deadening roller" "wall paper roller" and probably a few other names that include "roller". Something like this set. (Good for drysuit seal repairs too!)
https://www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Deade...856047&sr=8-10
Pete thank you very much for taking the time to put that reply together I really appreciate it. I watched the video and feel confident about getting the patch sorted but will probably post again when it comes to seating the wooden brace !

Thanks again

Splash
__________________
Splash gordon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
repair, zodiac


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 12:04.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.