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24 February 2023, 11:09
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin
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Dublin Calling
Hi,
Just joined having lurked for a while - finding the site hugely informative.
I'm thinking of taking the plunge and purchasing a new RIB in the 5m range.
There are two Irish operators - Neptune (relatively new to the market and based in Co. Cork) and Lencraft (more established and based in Co. Waterford). I'd be interested to hear if anyone has had experience of either.
I'm also looking at the UK-based operator XS Ribs who have an Irish agent based in Co. Waterford - Nautic Inflatable Services out of Dungarvan.
Thanks.
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24 February 2023, 11:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,109
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Don’t forget Redbay, I know it’s not quite in your parish, but certainly worth considering.
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24 February 2023, 11:21
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin
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Length: no boat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Don’t forget Redbay, I know it’s not quite in your parish, but certainly worth considering.
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Thanks Dave. I had considered them but their range commences at 6.1m - or do they customise?
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24 February 2023, 11:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,109
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Dublin Calling
Quote:
Originally Posted by RibNetUser
Thanks Dave. I had considered them but their range commences at 6.1m - or do they customise?
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Allegedly they do a shortened 6.1 to a 5.5m. I tried to order one a few years back & they weren’t interested, too busy doing bigger more profitable stuff. I’d definitely have a look at the 6.1 though if it fits the brief.
There’s always the “ultimate 5.45” to consider if you want to buy from the UK[emoji6]
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24 February 2023, 11:58
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: cork
Make: ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: suzuki DF90A
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 31
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Be careful, there is a vast difference in overall quality, reliability and longevity between manufacturers so depends if you want a "Fiat" or a "Merc"
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24 February 2023, 12:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Allegedly they do a shortened 6.1 to a 5.5m. I tried to order one a few years back & they weren’t interested, too busy doing bigger more profitable stuff. I’d definitely have a look at the 6.1 though if it fits the brief.
There’s always the “ultimate 5.45” to consider if you want to buy from the UK[emoji6]
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Thanks - I'll make an inquiry with Redbay as well.
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24 February 2023, 12:14
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Town: Dublin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jokee
Be careful, there is a vast difference in overall quality, reliability and longevity between manufacturers so depends if you want a "Fiat" or a "Merc"
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Thanks Jokee - I see both yourself and Dave are Ribcraft enthusiasts. I trust that's the brand you'd recommend from personal experience.
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24 February 2023, 14:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,109
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Dublin Calling
Quote:
Originally Posted by RibNetUser
Thanks Jokee - I see both yourself and Dave are Ribcraft enthusiasts. I trust that's the brand you'd recommend from personal experience.
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Depends on what your requirements are & how much you’re prepared to spend/wait. I have a RC, but Redbay were certainly on my list when I bought my current boat. If they had come back to me with a price, I might have a Redbay in the shed instead of a RC. Both brands are “commercial” in appearance and build. With prices to match. That said, Ribcraft have just undergone a radical change in ownership & management, so things may have changed. But they still seem to be concentrating on the bigger commercial/government contracts.
You’re looking at 5m boats, depending on where you’re intending cruising & in what conditions, you may have to choose wisely. I have a RC545 which punches well above its weight for a relatively small boat, it’s crossed the Irish Sea a couple of times & been to St Kilda & the Channel Islands.
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24 February 2023, 14:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RibNetUser
Hi,
Just joined having lurked for a while - finding the site hugely informative.
I'm thinking of taking the plunge and purchasing a new RIB in the 5m range.
There are two Irish operators - Neptune (relatively new to the market and based in Co. Cork) and Lencraft (more established and based in Co. Waterford). I'd be interested to hear if anyone has had experience of either.
I'm also looking at the UK-based operator XS Ribs who have an Irish agent based in Co. Waterford - Nautic Inflatable Services out of Dungarvan.
Thanks.
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Another question, is this your first RIB/Boat or do you have experience of either?
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24 February 2023, 14:34
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin
Boat name: -
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Length: no boat
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Join Date: Feb 2023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Depends on what your requirements are & how much you’re prepared to spend/wait. I have a RC, but Redbay were certainly on my list when I bought my current boat. If they had come back to me with a price, I might have a Redbay in the shed instead of a RC. Both brands are “commercial” in appearance and build. With prices to match. That said, Ribcraft have just undergone a radical change in ownership & management, so things may have changed. But they still seem to be concentrating on the bigger commercial/government contracts.
You’re looking at 5m boats, depending on where you’re intending cruising & in what conditions, you may have to choose wisely. I have a RC545 which punches well above its weight for a relatively small boat, it’s crossed the Irish Sea a couple of times & been to St Kilda & the Channel Islands.
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My intention is a bit of leisurely (fair weather) cruising - Dublin Bay, perhaps drop it in the Shannon for a spin up the river and into Lough Ree, west Cork for a week or two in the Summer etc. Probably three or four adults and minimum gear - not fishing or diving. Preference is for new rather than second-hand as I'd rather not have the attendant money pit issues that could arise with the latter. No plans to enter international waters!
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24 February 2023, 14:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Another question, is this your first RIB/Boat or do you have experience of either?
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I have previous experience of RIBs when I did some diving but content to stay on the water this time around.
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24 February 2023, 15:10
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Country: Other
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Join Date: Feb 2016
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Excalibur ribs are worth a call, you'll find them at Haven Marine in Cork. They told me they would build up to 6.0m boat so that would fit your spec.
Talk or email XS directly in UK, very straight forward to deal with. They can arrange delivery to Dublin (have done for me) and export paperwork etc. Their boats last very well and you'll see lots of them working hard in sailing clubs around Dublin.
Worth talking to a few Lencraft owners about their boats.
I have no experience of Neptune but they should be easy to view.
I've found it very hard to keep Redbay's attention, have had one in the past-very capable boat.
Ribcraft might be worth a call too. They've been building and exporting boats for quite a while and have a boat of the right size intheir line up.
Rib market in Ireland is small so as well as picking a boat that you like have an eye to the day that you will want to sell too, as Jokee says above.
Happy shopping.
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24 February 2023, 15:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Dials
Excalibur ribs are worth a call, you'll find them at Haven Marine in Cork. They told me they would build up to 6.0m boat so that would fit your spec.....
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Thanks Iron Dials for the input - I'll touch base with Haven Marine as well.
I take the point - the day you buy is the day you sell!
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24 February 2023, 16:57
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,927
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Personally in your shoes I'd not discount a used rig, not many folk buy the right boat first time, especially those with limited experience. Many buy either too large, too small wrong layout etc etc a sub 10year old boat is unlikely to be a money pit if you stick to the main engine brands Yamaha suzuki or mercury. What you will avoid is the initial hit of depreciation that a new boat is likely to attract as someone else will have taken that hit. If you then find you bought the wrong boat (which many folk do) then you will probably be able to sell for most of your money back & with the knowledge gained probably choose & specify the boat that fits your needs best.
Sent from my SM-G950F using RIB Net mobile app
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24 February 2023, 17:01
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: cork
Make: ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: suzuki DF90A
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 31
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Ribnetuser, Like yourself, I returned to ribbing after 20 years - when the kids stopped emptying my pockets. After piles of research and advice from experienced ribbers, I learned that looking good with loads of bling doesn't always make a good boat. You will find plenty of horror stories on this forum of tube seams becoming unstuck etc. in some brands after relatively short lifespans compared to others. Sea keeping ability, when weather turns and the fan is hit is also important - maybe not so on the Shannon, but certainly where the atlantic hits West Cork. This is what prodded me to Ribcraft.
There are some makers mentioned above to be avoided - I won't name which in an attempt to avoid court - your enquiries will get these names very quickly
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24 February 2023, 17:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
Personally in your shoes I'd not discount a used rig, not many folk buy the right boat first time, especially those with limited experience. Many buy either too large, too small wrong layout etc etc a sub 10year old boat is unlikely to be a money pit if you stick to the main engine brands Yamaha suzuki or mercury. What you will avoid is the initial hit of depreciation that a new boat is likely to attract as someone else will have taken that hit. If you then find you bought the wrong boat (which many folk do) then you will probably be able to sell for most of your money back & with the knowledge gained probably choose & specify the boat that fits your needs best.
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They were my thoughts too re. Used rig. That’s why I asked about the OP’s previous experience. A cheaper but quality rig would serve to work out what the OP’s requirements are & wouldn’t be a bit hit on the residuals.
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24 February 2023, 19:51
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Welcome to RIBnet, OP.
Redbay won't get out of bed for less than 6.1m. Great boats but the economics of handbuilding custom craft in Ireland make it unviable.
Ribcraft - great boats
XS - very good contender for yer moolah
Lencraft - IMVHO, if the Lenane Bros are still running the s##tshow, well, run....
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25 February 2023, 15:08
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
Personally in your shoes I'd not discount a used rig, not many folk buy the right boat first time, especially those with limited experience. Many buy either too large, too small wrong layout etc etc a sub 10year old boat is unlikely to be a money pit if you stick to the main engine brands Yamaha suzuki or mercury. What you will avoid is the initial hit of depreciation that a new boat is likely to attract as someone else will have taken that hit. If you then find you bought the wrong boat (which many folk do) then you will probably be able to sell for most of your money back & with the knowledge gained probably choose & specify the boat that fits your needs best.
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Thanks Beamishken.
I suppose if the right 2nd hand RIB came along I could be persuaded in terms of reduced initial outlay and not taking the depreciation hit. I'm just wary of the potential expenditure if the wrong 2nd hand RIB is purchased. Caveat emptor and all that.
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25 February 2023, 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jokee
Ribnetuser, Like yourself, I returned to ribbing after 20 years - when the kids stopped emptying my pockets. After piles of research and advice from experienced ribbers, I learned that looking good with loads of bling doesn't always make a good boat.
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Thanks Jokee.
I appreciate that a quality hull from a competent builder far outweighs eye-catching kit. For that reason I'm tending towards XS - and perhaps Ribcraft. I think I'm getting a feel for those to be avoided. I'll say no more!
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25 February 2023, 15:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
They were my thoughts too re. Used rig. That’s why I asked about the OP’s previous experience. A cheaper but quality rig would serve to work out what the OP’s requirements are & wouldn’t be a bit hit on the residuals.
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Thanks Dave - I won't rule out a 2nd hand RIB just wary of what I could end up with.
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