Greetings from Argyll

Explore Cowal · 27 June 2016, 17:29

Hello.

Currently own a Sea Kayak but after the weekend I'll hopefuly be putting it up for sale. Have decided to look at a SIB as replacement as I still want to visit remote shores for some camping and Bothy visits.

The bonus being..........

Can still use the car alone to transport it
Can take the family out ( if they behave)
Can launch from remote spots
Can drag it up a beach with the transom wheels fitted, saves anchoring and a paddle.

I've checked a few threads on the forum, so I've decided a V hull would be ideal and something about 3.2 - 3.8mts in size. Boat no more than 50Kg and similar for the outboard. Looked at a Honwave 3.2 with a 10hp engine but undecided as yet.

Thanks,

Fraser.

Fenlander · 27 June 2016, 17:37

Hello Fraser and welcome to the forum.

You have some brilliant boating areas on your doorstep.

A sensible size/weight inflatable will still give much of the car portability of your kayak and as you say will get the family out too.

The Honwave range are all decent SIBs... and great value new in particular.

To offer advice it would help to know if you were thinking new or used?

David

Explore Cowal · 27 June 2016, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Fenlander

Hello Fraser and welcome to the forum.

A sensible size/weight inflatable will still give much of the car portability of your kayak and as you say will get the family out too.

The Honwave range are all decent SIBs... and great value new in particular.

To offer advice it would help to know if you were thinking new or used?

David

Thanks for the welcome David

The 3.2 Honwave and 10hp was a new package, however this is just a tad more expensive than my Kayak

There seems to be some good second hand packages about also.

Even if i found a second hand boat then sourced an engine, that'd be good.

I have no mechanical skills, a new engine would be ideal although expensive.

Just check the Classifieds on here, a Honwave 3.8. Hmmmm

Plus i'd need to drop the topic casually into a conversation with the wife.

Poly · 27 June 2016, 17:51

How big is the family? 3.2+10HP might not be ideal... or it might be.
How big is the car? A SIB+fueltank+engine+kit (anchor, ropes, paddles etc) and a family of waterproofs and lifejackets etc takes up a lot of space.

Explore Cowal · 27 June 2016, 17:59

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Originally Posted by Poly

How big is the family? 3.2+10HP might not be ideal... or it might be.
How big is the car? A SIB+fueltank+engine+kit (anchor, ropes, paddles etc) and a family of waterproofs and lifejackets etc takes up a lot of space.

Hello Poly.

I have a Subaru Forester ( an estate ) with roof box, there's two adults and one 4yr old. I also have access to a wee trailer if required. I'd mostly go out solo or with a friend camping etc.

Thanks,

Fraser.

Fenlander · 27 June 2016, 18:00

If you were considering a Honwave 3.2/Honda 10hp package new think about the 15hp. It weighs the same as the 10hp and for just £190 extra you have 50% extra power which would be useful and greatly help resale.

Honwave T32IE2 & 10hp - 15hp Honda outboard

If you went up to the 3.8 Honwave you would have loads of extra room but really need to go to a 15hp or ideally 20hp.

Edit:

>>>have a Subaru Forester ( an estate ) with roof box, there's two adults and one 4yr old...

I think you'll be fine for space then. We have used two different estates and within the estate area (seats not folded) we get in...

3.6-3.8m SIB in bag, 15-20hp outboard, 25l tank, 12l spare tank, transom wheels, footpump, elec pump, 3 dry bags of kit, 4 lifejackets, wet weather clothing for 4 etc etc.

Explore Cowal · 27 June 2016, 18:40

Thanks for the advice. The extra hp for no weight gain seems great, for little additional cost.

I'm undecided on size, was sure of a 3.2 but now looking at 3.6-3.8

Guess it's a fine balance on whats manageable out the water and what it returns in the water.

Fenlander · 27 June 2016, 19:02

>>>undecided on size, was sure of a 3.2 but now looking at 3.6-3.8

The general advice on here for years has been to buy a used outfit at a fair price then when you inevitably find with experience your ideal is something else selling on will cause little or no loss.

Advice also was to buy a 2006 or earlier 2-stroke engine as they are (were?) loads lighter than the new 4-strokes. However the makers have managed to lighten their 4-strokes in some sizes where the overall balance of factors might fall to the 4-stroke.

Buying a Honwave SIB new exposes you to minimal loss if you do swap in the future as they are such value new they don't have far to drop. However a new outboard can lose a fair bit so you need to try and get that right first time if possible.

Explore Cowal · 27 June 2016, 19:21

Good point. I'd try and get the boat first if not a package. I know a few people that do sailing or have small fishing boats, could always blag an outboard. My mate has got one of the 9.8 Tahatsu? thingys, it's a 2 stroke. Think they get a good write up, quite light too.

Fenlander · 27 June 2016, 20:29

The 9.8 Tohatsu is one of the holy grail outboards... so easy to manage and about 10kg lighter than many 10hp models.