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12 July 2020, 11:11
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Honwave wheel fitment
Hi Forum
I have just bought a honwave T30-AE 3.0M Aluminium Floor
Im wanting to fit the transform wheels
The instruction are rubbish to say the least
Ive put the transfers on
Have i done this right before i drill into the transform
Kind regards
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12 July 2020, 11:27
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Well if you have fitted those templates per the written instructions on them (can't read the wording) I guess so.
I always fit working it out myself by eye and trial clamping the brackets to the transom with the boat supported in the air and the outboard on then swinging the wheels up and down to see they clear everything.
My gut feeling is I would be fitting lower down so the buttons are in the blue material and further out as far as possible to allow the outboard maximum room on a turn... as long as the wheels clear the tubes when swung upwards,
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12 July 2020, 11:39
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Here are some of my setups of what I think are the same wheel type...
And see this thread with Paddler's Honwave in post #7 and them on my Aerotec posts #22 & 23.
https://www.rib.net/forum/f50/trem-h...tec-69303.html
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12 July 2020, 11:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone
Hi Forum
I have just bought a honwave T30-AE 3.0M Aluminium Floor
Im wanting to fit the transform wheels
The instruction are rubbish to say the least
Ive put the transfers on
Have i done this right before i drill into the transform
Kind regards
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If i go lower on the drill holes i will be hitting the alloy bar at the back
Im wondering if i need to go closer to the main tubes?
Kind regards
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12 July 2020, 12:10
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OK fair enough re height. Just check at the current template posn you have a good clearance between top of the tyre and the floor fabric when in down position.
Re how wide they are set I wonder if their description "tangent to the rubber boat tail" means the actual tube rather then the edge of the strengthening flange as you have it??
I'm just worried how they are now the outboard might not have room to turn fully... you could test this by fitting the OB and clamping the wheels in the up posn... you also have to think ahead in case you upgraded to the max allowed HP in the future which would be more bulky.
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12 July 2020, 13:52
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Hi
The holes do need to be lower ie in the blue pvc
Im wondering why honwave do not have these pre drilled with rubber bungs in
Looking around this honwave i can see where its not glued correctly on the seams,ie lifting off in places
Im not keen on this alloy flooring i can see this is going to rub on the tubes
I have a gumotex kayak and the quality is a lot better plus its not PVC
Im afraid its looking like more made in china junk
Kind regards
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12 July 2020, 15:00
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Shame it's not working out for you... I had the 3.5m version a few years back and it was as well made as a Zodiac at half the price.
The alloy floor rubbing isn't an issue... it hasn't rubbed through in over ten years of any I've owned.
But lifting seams on a new boat is a worry and in view of you not liking it I'd fire it back to the dealer for refund on that issue then get something else.
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12 July 2020, 16:09
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Originally Posted by Fenlander
Shame it's not working out for you... I had the 3.5m version a few years back and it was as well made as a Zodiac at half the price.
The alloy floor rubbing isn't an issue... it hasn't rubbed through in over ten years of any I've owned.
But lifting seams on a new boat is a worry and in view of you not liking it I'd fire it back to the dealer for refund on that issue then get something else.
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Am i been too picky?
Kind regards
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12 July 2020, 17:09
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I would try and pull those seams quite hard and see if the glue is failing enough to allow further peeling back. If no has to be your judgement to complain or not... but if they do peel any more straight to dealer.
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12 July 2020, 17:35
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Originally Posted by tyrone
Am i been too picky?
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Hi
Yes the glue is failing
I got the boat on the 6th of this month,Ive only just opened it,Glad i did not drill the transform..
If i get problems off the dealer i will let the forum know where i got it from
Thanks for advice
Kind regards
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12 July 2020, 17:39
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My 3,5 AE with Trem heavy duty.
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12 July 2020, 17:42
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Originally Posted by paddlers
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Thanks for the pictures
I just need a boat what is not dropping to bits...And the sun is out oh dear lol
My gumotex kayak is fine though
Kind regards
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12 July 2020, 17:49
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In all the cases I know of the Honwave dealers have swapped faulty boats or refunded without too much hassle.
You'll just have to keep paddling.
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13 July 2020, 14:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone
Hi Forum
I have just bought a honwave T30-AE 3.0M Aluminium Floor
Im wanting to fit the transform wheels
The instruction are rubbish to say the least
Ive put the transfers on
Have i done this right before i drill into the transform
Kind regards
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Hi forum
Just to let you know my damaged boat is getting picked up and a replacement is coming at the same time
Kind regards
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14 July 2020, 14:16
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Originally Posted by tyrone
Hi forum
Just to let you know my damaged boat is getting picked up and a replacement is coming at the same time
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Hi Forum
Got my new boat today
Ive marked the transform like the pictures ive been shown..
My boat is a honwave T30-Ae
If i fit them like the pictures i cannot get the wheels past the tubes
Are these the correct wheels?
Kind regards
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14 July 2020, 14:18
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Here are pictures
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14 July 2020, 14:38
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Is there a reason why you can't just move them in enough for the wheels to clear the tubes by a small amount? Also beware height and the bottom button location for where the inside of its fixing ends up.
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14 July 2020, 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
Is there a reason why you can't just move them in enough for the wheels to clear the tubes by a small amount? Also beware height and the bottom button location for where the inside of its fixing ends up.
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Hi
If i move them in any more i will foul the outboard steering
If i force these i will damage things
Kind regards
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14 July 2020, 14:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone
Hi
If i move them in any more i will foul the outboard steering
If i force these i will damage things
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Here is a picture
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14 July 2020, 15:15
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Ahh understood. In truth positioning is often a compromise on a smaller SIB but you absolutely don't want the wheel scraping the tube.
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