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30 January 2017, 12:35
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Boat name: Spy-sea-one
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Fair play [emoji106] I've just not seen powder coating last very long, on steel, let alone ally. You've only to look at a Delta A frame after a few years & they ain't cheap[emoji15]
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to be honest i wasnt keen when you see it on other stuff[swings etc]
but i got let down by ribquest to make me new lower fiberglass bases [5 inch lower to fit my small legs] so craig at coastal pro got these bases made to my spec in the shetlands [dont ask me why that far] any way it apeared that this fabricator made ali boats and knocked them up for me £350.00 the pair and they supposed to have a coating on them that stops the corrosion layer [dont know what it is or if its bol----s][not anadised as far as i know, any rate a mate got them powdercoated £60.00 for the pair so i thought if & when they get tatty at that price i'll have um done again.i did radius all the edges thats were coatings fail paint doesnt like sharp edges,all the bolts were 316 stainless and i coated them in sikaflex even the base to seat mechanism with no issues.
the other thing was if they didnt work then a have the makings of a mould to build my own seat bases out of GRP result
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30 January 2017, 14:34
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Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Fair play [emoji106] I've just not seen powder coating last very long, on steel, let alone ally. You've only to look at a Delta A frame after a few years & they ain't cheap[emoji15]
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Your right Dave my mine is flaked all over and it was original RC
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30 January 2017, 14:50
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Your right Dave my mine is flaked all over and it was original RC
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its all about preperation billy i bet there is no profile on the tube thats why it flakes the guy that did mile grit blasted mine for a key i know you can get etch primer but not sure with powder coating with the heat
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30 January 2017, 15:01
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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
its all about preperation billy i bet there is no profile on the tube thats why it flakes the guy that did mile grit blasted mine for a key i know you can get etch primer but not sure with powder coating with the heat
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Your so right Jeff. The tube is as shiny as a baby's bum every time you hit it a flake comes of.
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30 January 2017, 15:17
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Originally Posted by jambo
Your so right Jeff. The tube is as shiny as a baby's bum every time you hit it a flake comes of.
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it anoys me billy everyone paints things its a fundimental stage to prep the surface of any material ribcraft should know that not good enough especially for the cost of them
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30 January 2017, 15:19
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I'm just letting it flake off until I'm left with a SS frame
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30 January 2017, 15:23
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I'm just letting it flake off until I'm left with a SS frame
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dont blame you mate have you tried contacting them and have a good moan
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30 January 2017, 15:33
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I'm just letting it flake off until I'm left with a SS frame
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Is it stainless or ally Billy?
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30 January 2017, 15:33
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dont blame you mate have you tried contacting them and have a good moan
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No as I was not the original buyer and its 20 year old this year so I'll live with it
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30 January 2017, 18:03
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https://www.plasticcoatings.co.uk/pl...ip-coating.php
Supose 20 years not bad Billy I wounder if this is an alternative?
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30 January 2017, 18:13
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Yep that's why I have resigned myself to a SS frame eventually! Yes if I could be bothered stripping it down that would be a good solution
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30 January 2017, 18:44
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Yep that's why I have resigned myself to a SS frame eventually! Yes if I could be bothered stripping it down that would be a good solution
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Just keep it natural Billy, coating stainless is a crime[emoji37]
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30 January 2017, 19:06
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Just keep it natural Billy, coating stainless is a crime[emoji37]
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I am inclined to agree Dave, its a bit spotty at the moment but we will get there.
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31 January 2017, 05:12
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions folks, I don't feel like its a lost cause with this boat now... I will look at the options and prices and come up with something to fit to the boat.. There are other issues with this Highfield boat and I know now that Highfield (Hendy Group) are just not interested in the small customer in the slightest so wont be speaking to them for any assistance or advice in the future.
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31 January 2017, 07:38
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions folks, I don't feel like its a lost cause with this boat now... I will look at the options and prices and come up with something to fit to the boat.. There are other issues with this Highfield boat and I know now that Highfield (Hendy Group) are just not interested in the small customer in the slightest so wont be speaking to them for any assistance or advice in the future.
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You're welcome to the advice & opinions, there're are plenty on here to go round[emoji1].
Sad to hear about your troubles with Highfield, I thought that they were one of the better Chinese manufacturers, I seem to recall someone singing their praises recently on another thread. Do you want to elaborate for the benefit of other potential purchasers?
I didn't think I'd ever see the day when I'd say this, but here goes:- have you tried the FB group? Steve Harrison is an active member on there & you might get a [s]reaction[\s] result.
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31 January 2017, 08:54
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I didn't think I'd ever see the day when I'd say this, but here goes:- have you tried the FB group? Steve Harrison is an active member on there & you might get a [s]reaction[\s] result.
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best get your tin hat out PD
Ian9525 as others have already mentioned, Mark Littler at Marine Fabrications is the man to talk to, they fabricate lots of stainless for numerous boat builders, including the military, so I'm sure he'll have some suggestions as the but way to go with your a frame, it's got to be worth a phone call, it's worth a visit just to see the workshop, I couldn't recommend them highly enough
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31 January 2017, 13:47
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Yeah! I thought I was sticking my head above the parapet, [emoji15]
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31 January 2017, 17:51
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Town: denny
Boat name: breezy
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Engine: honda 150
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Originally Posted by Ian9525
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions folks, I don't feel like its a lost cause with this boat now... I will look at the options and prices and come up with something to fit to the boat.. There are other issues with this Highfield boat and I know now that Highfield (Hendy Group) are just not interested in the small customer in the slightest so wont be speaking to them for any assistance or advice in the future.
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when I was looking for a new boat last year mrs breezeblock went to see the 460 at bosuns locker and thought it was ideal she had her heart set on it so I went to have a look and to be honest I was not that well impressed it wasn't that well finished and the big thing was the welding it was god awful it looked like a set of sills on a mk3 cortina we priced the 540 I think and it worked out more expensive for that with pvc tubes than the humber with hypalon so we went with them I hope you get your problems sorted out what issues have you had
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31 January 2017, 18:00
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when I was looking for a new boat last year mrs breezeblock went to see the 460 at bosuns locker and thought it was ideal she had her heart set on it so I went to have a look and to be honest I was not that well impressed it wasn't that well finished and the big thing was the welding it was god awful it looked like a set of sills on a mk3 cortina we priced the 540 I think and it worked out more expensive for that with pvc tubes than the humber with hypalon so we went with them I hope you get your problems sorted out what issues have you had
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I looked at the Highfields at the boat show & had similar thoughts re. the welding. Considering it was a "showpiece" I was decidedly underwhelmed.
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31 January 2017, 18:16
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I looked at the Highfields at the boat show & had similar thoughts re. the welding. Considering it was a "showpiece" I was decidedly underwhelmed.
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I would say the welds were probably strong enough but if they had smeared some sealer over the weld to make it look better I wouldn't have noticed it on a brand new boat with no clutter in the lockers etc it stuck out like a sore thumb
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