10 litre limit!

Lewy · 04 April 2009, 21:02

Filled up a couple of 20 litre cans with petrol at the local garage this evening and the guy at the till said there's a 10 litre limit now. He said it was a new law and that you needed a licence to buy in containers bigger than 10 ltres. There was a bit of a queue so didnt really have time to discuss it any further but this is the first time i've heard of this.

gibbo500 · 04 April 2009, 21:22

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Originally Posted by Lewy

Filled up a couple of 20 litre cans with petrol at the local garage this evening and the guy at the till said there's a 10 litre limit now. He said it was a new law and that you needed a licence to buy in containers bigger than 10 ltres. There was a bit of a queue so didnt really have time to discuss it any further but this is the first time i've heard of this.

Was it Sainsburys? It must be company policy as i am sure it is not legislation???????

Lewy · 04 April 2009, 21:28

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Originally Posted by gibbo500

Was it Sainsburys? It must be company policy as i am sure it is not legislation???????

no it was bp garage!
i fill up all the time but never came across this problem before.

bazza · 04 April 2009, 21:45

I collected 60 litres yesterday for our club's inflatables and no-one said anything. The garage attendant did check the containers to make sure they were suitable but that was all.
Probably one of those rules no one ever enforces.

Lewy · 04 April 2009, 21:56

found this information on bp's website http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarti...tentId=7016867

codprawn · 04 April 2009, 22:03

This 10L limit has been around for ages - it's local trading standards to blame.

BP allowing 1x jerry can is a new one on me.

The actual ruling is that they can only dispense 10L at a time. you could go back in and pay again and so on. I am sure they would get pissed off in the end.

Never had the problem is Swansea - so many people do it - for boats or farmers or whatever. If they don't know you it would be a good idea to offer them money up front - they are more scared of drive offs. It's quite common for a car with false plates to drive off with say 100litres of fuel. You would think the cashier would get a bit suss when it's a Fiesta!!!

Nos4r2 · 04 April 2009, 22:03

http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/bus...containers.htm

codprawn · 04 April 2009, 22:04

That's the trouble - different trading standards hitlers have their own take on it!!!

Lewy · 04 April 2009, 22:51

maybe bp are going to become more stringent with this rule. we should keep an eye on them....

BruceB · 04 April 2009, 22:56

The laws surrounding home and vehicle petrol stowage and decanting into portable containers are fairly restrictive. The petrol station probably just had someone new start or has just been sent a memo about it.
It seems to pop up more in cities, not sure if this is because coastal and farming areas are more flexible about it because of need or it is just that they are more worried in cities that some of the decanters are just going to firebomb some poor bankers house.....

alystra · 04 April 2009, 23:48

Yeah! I got that in Tesco's in Oban a few years ago. Told them they'd lost a good customer. Went across the road for a year or two. Not had a problem recently.

Usually use both stations in Lochgilphead, one 20 litre gerry can in each, and fill up the car. Back home I siphon as much as I can out of the car.

These rules only come in during the tourist season, when they can always sell plenty of petrol. They're forgotten in the winter when times are hard.

Also noticed the trend of fuel increasing in price as the summer unfolds, so we all have to pay more for our fun. 'They' must think we're stupid, when we know it is they who are so if they think we don't remember these things come election day. Vote UKIP

codprawn · 05 April 2009, 02:05

Most petrol stations only make 3p per litre - you can't begrudge them that - not when the Government make about 60p!!!

chewy · 05 April 2009, 08:30

Most petrol stations where I am have signs up saying "only certified 5L plastic containers can be used".

Our local petrol station will open speciacally for us if we are on service and need to fuel, on average we spend £100 when we fill the 10L jerry cans up so he's happy!

Poly · 05 April 2009, 08:37

The problem is not new. If you search here you will find similar threads. I have only had a complaint once (and like you I had already dispensed the fuel so it was a bit late!). I replied "but thats not a portable container - its a boat fuel tank so it is OK" [I am not sure if this is right - but I think it is!] she just stared at me. She sold me another 25L a few weeks later without a word!

Nos4r2 · 05 April 2009, 09:47

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Originally Posted by Polwart

The problem is not new. If you search here you will find similar threads. I have only had a complaint once (and like you I had already dispensed the fuel so it was a bit late!). I replied "but thats not a portable container - its a boat fuel tank so it is OK" [I am not sure if this is right - but I think it is!] she just stared at me. She sold me another 25L a few weeks later without a word!

I'm fairly sure you're right-it counts as filling a demountable tank. I asked an accredited ADR instructor about it when I did my ADR, and he said it's a bit of a grey area if it's a demountable tank of over 25 litres, but up to that it's OK. UN regulations are somewhat different if it's a demountable tank.

Lewy · 05 April 2009, 10:32

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Originally Posted by Lewy

maybe bp are going to become more stringent with this rule. we should keep an eye on them....

actually, i just checked my receipt and it was in fact an Esso garage....................Doh!!

whiteminiman · 05 April 2009, 11:44

Quite a handy guide from the RYA.

http://www.rya.org.uk/assets/legal/W...F%20PETROL.pdf

WMM

JSP · 05 April 2009, 16:04

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Originally Posted by whiteminiman

Quite a handy guide from the RYA.

http://www.rya.org.uk/assets/legal/W...F%20PETROL.pdf

WMM

So going off that I can only fill and transport one of my 25L tanks in the car. But if I take the boat to the pump I can fill up. Looks like I may as well invest in a built in tank.

PeterM · 05 April 2009, 16:27

I fill 3 x25L & a small 5L at my local Shell - no worries - they are so used to me & other boats now they don't bat an eyelid !

Filled 40L to jetski & small RIB all the time !

I Have 75L sat in the Garage at the mo ! I'm not sure thats 'legal' ! Will be topping up the mian boat later today with it .

Tim M · 06 April 2009, 00:28

So far I've never had any problems in Portsmouth. I go to an independent/franchise petrol station where they know me and regularly fill up 100+ litres in jerry cans (saving me about £35 a run over marina prices!). They must wonder why my diesel car has such a large petrol tank in the boot. Alternately just go to a pay at pump place after its closed and theres no staff there to tell you not too.