2nd kill cord?

bingomike · 10 May 2011, 11:00

After a day out the other day, I became aware that perhaps i wasn't paying enough attention to my passenger sat directly behind me on me new seat pod and could have lost him overboard and not realised for a few minutes...

Has anyone thought of fitting a 2nd kill cord to seats behind? or even some sort of switch that would illuminate a light in your line of sight on the front console?

Any thoughts?

Mike

Cookee · 10 May 2011, 13:29

Piece of cake to fit a second killcord - Yamaha ones are very waterproof and all you need is two wires from the existing switch.

Razorbill RIBs · 10 May 2011, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Cookee

Piece of cake to fit a second killcord - Yamaha ones are very waterproof and all you need is two wires from the existing switch.

We had some little RNLI SIBs which were being used for a youth training (future crews?? or did i make that up?) programme.....they had a twin killcord arrangement but using one switch IIRC, but can't recall how it worked....as Cookee says, easy to wire in a second switch

Portholme · 10 May 2011, 17:29

could you attach two lanyards to the same kill switch? it's unlikely that one peron falling overboard would pull the other over with a lanyard but it would stop the boat.

Nos4r2 · 10 May 2011, 18:52

I'd personally use an old Mercury killcord-it's a switch with a hood and a loop-so if you're solo you don't need to use a killcord on it and you can reset it just by flicking the switch if someone goes overboard.

I wouldn't want to be joined to someone in any way. A capsize could turn very nasty if you both end up attached together and underwater.

chris123 · 10 May 2011, 19:51

The fourth crew seat at the back of the RNLI's Atlantic 85 has a killcord switch and killcord.

Pulling the killcord switch triggers an alarm light on the helmsman's panel, and an audible alarm siren - it is not connected to the engines.

Cheers

Chris

Poly · 10 May 2011, 20:03

http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/multiple...ll+cord+buzzer

watersidemat · 10 May 2011, 20:11

Make sure you have at least 3 people on board.

Buddy system, one will notice if one is missing and tell the helm.
Losing one crew overboard is unlucky, loosing two at once?
Time to re do PBL2

You should notice if the helm goes missing

RYA instructors are supposed to have their kill chord attached to the students kill chord so if the instuctor falls that will pull the main kill chord in the box.

Waterman · 10 May 2011, 21:51

connecting to an Alarm on helm seems like a better idea as the driver may need to move quickly to recover and if he had to fiddle around trying to reset/replace the kill cord the man over board was wearing could lose vital time not to mention if it was pulled accidentally when operating in surf etc.

wavelength · 10 May 2011, 22:03

2nd kill cords only for teaching juniors --easy to rig to one switch and a cost free option whatever the switch type in a way that whilst operating the switch they do not pull on another overboard.

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Make sure you have at least 3 people on board

I dont know that many people (or at least not that I want to take out on my boat for the day and who can put up with me

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wavelength · 10 May 2011, 22:09

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Pulling the killcord switch triggers an alarm light on the helmsman's panel

a far better arrangement than killing the engine at speed surely. Stopping a boat dead at full chat is gonna hurt somebody

bingomike · 10 May 2011, 22:40

Thanks for all the replies.

I dont fancy losing the engine power & suddenly slowing from 30 knots or more! The light idea seems the best way to go - don't think a buzzer would be heard above engine etc

I do try and keep check on my passengers, but in the time it takes to hit a wave badly and recover a fair distance could be covered.

Mike

willk · 10 May 2011, 22:41

' course, you could just have them kitted with a bit of string and a clothes peg...

Clip it to yer beanie - cold head, no buddy

bingomike · 10 May 2011, 22:43

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Originally Posted by willk

' course, you could just have them kitted with a bit of string and a clothes peg...

Clip it to yer beanie - cold head, no buddy

What and risk getting cold LOL

Downhilldai · 10 May 2011, 22:44

When they go quiet, it's probably worth a look over the shoulder to see if they're still there.

wavelength · 11 May 2011, 09:43

story from a mate who teaches jet ski regularly was that after pursuing girlie student on ski down the estuary in the school rib he eventually caught up with her (when she finally stopped) and conversation went sommat like
you ok??
yep most fun I've ever had with m'clothes on, must buy one.
Haven't you lost something?
No dont think so-shades/make up etc all ok
but havent you lost SOMETHING ???
no
wasnt your boyfriend on the back of the ski when you set off?
oh bugga where is he ??
A mile or so down the coast on the other rib where you threw him off the back of the ski when you set off!

Cookee · 11 May 2011, 18:12

A couple of points - the Mercury kill switches are not sealed - the boat will stop quickly but try it under controlled conditions, I would rather know that someone has gone over the side and stop quickly than to lose a crew member. A flashing light is good option and used to be compulsory on tandem OCR race boats.

wavelength · 11 May 2011, 20:08

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When they go quiet, it's probably worth a look over the shoulder to see if they're still there

that usually means m'other half has gone to sleep, no matter what the sea conditions or speed and has still not fallen off the jockey seat-bit like a budgie on its perch.
Never really thought of the topic as a problem before but easy enough to fit a light via a kill switch, I'll put it on the list of jobs to do.