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29 May 2005, 19:54
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Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
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5 Meter RIB Side by Side seating
Hi all,
Just a quick poll to see if anybody has a 5 metre or smaller RIB with a double console and 4 pod seats in 2 rows of two.
This is all part of my research into my next RIB and I was wondering if this is a realistic proposition.
The smallest I can find from my own research is a 5.3 Meter Ribcraft.
Regards Nick R.
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29 May 2005, 20:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W/Switzerland
Boat name: HotShot
Make: shakey
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Tohatsu TLDI
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,559
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I'm going to try and squeeze it into my 5.2 shakey, but its going to involve a fancy console design.
Tim
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30 May 2005, 05:33
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Country: Australia
Town: Sydney
Make: Gemini
Length: 5.05
Engine: 85hp Yamaha
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 105
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and i would like to try a similar configuration in my 5.05 gemini... as i need to move the console forward anyway, however i have one of those all in one console and seat affairs on my gemini so the two pods would need to be behind those...
unsure if its feasible... ideally i'd like a larger rib but my domestic accountant has pointed out that its not likely in this fiscal year
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30 May 2005, 12:50
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Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
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RIB Comparison.
My over riding factor is being able to get my boat launched on a crappy slip way. I might be able to launch a larger boat and therefore fit in the side by side seating with ease.
At the moment we can launch with ease a couple of 4 Meter Sea Riders and the largest boat we launch is a 4.6 meter Selva. Thats why I am sticking to 5 meter. I'm going to do some measuring of these boats at the weekend and see how there hull size compares to 5 meter or larger hulls.
Has anybody any experience of launching 4 meter sea Riders and maybe larger RIBS up to 6 meter and can they give any comparisons ?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards Nick R.
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30 May 2005, 13:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
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6.5m is launchable on your own, if;
The water is dead calm
A good slipway
A pair of waders
However, there is now way I would try it on my own if there are waves or tide running. If you don't have anything to tie the boat to whilst recovering trailer and car we have used a divers shot (28 or 56 lb) tied on the painter to briefly hold the boat of the shore. Think preparation and taking your time is the key.
Pete ( also interested in side by side seating in a 5m rib)
Leway has some narrow seats available and good quality too.
http://www.leewaycomposites.co.uk/
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30 May 2005, 13:51
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
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Pete,
The launch site is very sheltered and calm. Its in a tidal creek.
The problem is the slipway its self. Its quite a shallow run on loose and sinking in to the mud shingle.
Some quite large fishing boats, approx 18 feet, use it twice a year to get to wet moorings but I'll be using it everyday or put in on a Friday night and retrieve on the Sunday evening.
What I have to work out is how much water I need to retrieve the boat and if its worth getting a large boat if I'm not going to be able to launch it at my present location.
Does a 6 meter boat need a lot more water than a 4 Meter Sea Rider ?
Regards Nick R.
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30 May 2005, 14:03
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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As I don't have many mates I quite find myself luanching on my own!
I don't think there is much difference between a 4 metre and a six for launching if you set up your trailer correctly. You want loads of rollers for a start and an eye on the car tow hook plate to lock the rope which lets the trailer in the water.
You will have to transition from the boat to the water so there might be a need to keep yourself dry!.
When you are setting up your trailer fit a spare keel roller as close to the bow of the boat as you can but not actually in contact with the bow. you can thread your winch strap through this and back on to the u bolt on the bow and winch the boat off the trailer. It also help this process if you remember to tie the painter on to the trailer whilst doing this. Also for self launching consider installing a walkway on the front half of your trailer. trailer........!
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30 May 2005, 14:20
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
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Rogue wave,
Thanks for the info.
I don't have any problems with getting wet. I usually wear a drysuit when its cold.
Thats a good idea about using the winch to launch the boat. That bit can be a bit of a bind pushing a Sea Rider off a non Roller trailer. I'm definately going to get a Roller Trailer next time.
So do you reckon the draught is pretty similar on a 6 meter boat and a 4 meter Sea Rider ?
When I launch I don't let my car go in the water so I normally have to unhook the trailer push it a bit further in the water and then push the boat off. Then I struggle to pull the trailer back up to the car before driving off and parking it up. The boat is usually pulled on to the shore and left for the 5 mins it takes me to get back to the boat. When I return from my trip out the boat is beached, I rush off for my car, reverse it down, drop off the trailer, push it out in to the water so the boat can be brought on to it. Then I tie a length of 10 meter rope on the trailer and pull it out of the water up a small steep rise on to flat land where I untie the rope and then marry up the trailer with the car. What I might be tempted to do with a bigger boat is just get the trailer out of the water, chock the wheels and then hook it up to the car before going up the short steep rise. This bit is quite narrow at the top because of a gate.
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30 May 2005, 14:37
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
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If your sea rider has a flooding hull ans your 6 metre doesn't the there wont be a lot of difference in draught as long as you put the bungs in!
Pull the trailer out on a rope and make sure your new trailer has a corrugated type jockey wheel!
until you replace your trailer consider putting teflon or nylon strips on the bunks, or washing up liquis on the rubber bunks
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...553160443&rd=1
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30 May 2005, 14:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Stu empty your in box.
Biggles, I don't do anything different to what you have described. If the slip is sheltered you will be fine with a long rope and some chocks to hold the trailer etc.
Pete
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30 May 2005, 17:46
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Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
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Rogue Wave,
Thanks for the info on the Jockey Wheel. Fully understood.
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30 May 2005, 20:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: St Albans
Boat name: Skylark
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: 140 Suzuki
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 143
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
Hi all,
Just a quick poll to see if anybody has a 5 metre or smaller RIB with a double console and 4 pod seats in 2 rows of two.
This is all part of my research into my next RIB and I was wondering if this is a realistic proposition.
The smallest I can find from my own research is a 5.3 Meter Ribcraft.
Regards Nick R.
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Nick I have a Ribcraft 5.3 with twin console, twin jockeys and bench seat behind, although you can specify 2 more jockeys
easy peasy off the trailer my eldest boy (12yrs) can winch it on whilst I give him encouragement from the boat!!!!)
Powered by 90hp 4stroke its good for 40kts +
20gal underfloor tank
Built like a brick ---- house
Its a great boat beautiful build quality, but you do pay for the privilege
The Ribcaft website shows many pics and a short video of the 5.3
The yeovil factory organises 1 or 2 open days down at Portland where you can try the boat
let me know if you need more info
regards
Andrew
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31 May 2005, 15:08
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Country: Other
Town: Oakley
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Andrew,
Sounds like you have the sort of boat I'm looking for.
Any chance you could send some pictures of the deck layout, console layout and transom and hull.
In fact any pictures. Including it sitting on a trailer next to and identifiable object for height reference etc.
Please PM me at your convenience.
Regards Nick R.
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31 May 2005, 15:16
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Town: Dorset
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Nick,
theres some pictures of Mike100's Ribcraft 5.3 here: Ribcraft 5.3
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31 May 2005, 15:25
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Member
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Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
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Ads,
Cheers.
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31 May 2005, 16:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: St Albans
Boat name: Skylark
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: 140 Suzuki
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 143
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
Andrew,
Sounds like you have the sort of boat I'm looking for.
Any chance you could send some pictures of the deck layout, console layout and transom and hull.
In fact any pictures. Including it sitting on a trailer next to and identifiable object for height reference etc.
Please PM me at your convenience.
Regards Nick R.
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damn fangled reformatting for PM's can you PM me your email addres and I'll send some piccies
Cheers
Andrew
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31 May 2005, 16:47
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Done
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04 June 2005, 21:27
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
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Andrew,
Many Thanks for letting me see your boat today. Thats a nice little setup you have there.
Hope you got back safely.
Regards Nick R.
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05 June 2005, 22:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: St Albans
Boat name: Skylark
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: 140 Suzuki
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Nick
Back safely, long day! Started with a rather nasty cut to my finger (caused by a poorly finished piece of metal work on the Arctic Blue !) So following a short trip to A & E at St Marys hospital I was looking forward to a trouble free afternoon! So, was a tad annoyed when the engine conked out on leaving Cowes (caused by the rather enormous Picnic bag being placed on the fuel line in the console and kinking the pipe thus starving the engine of fuel) wolly!!!! )
Sorry I didnt have time for a blast (Finally arrived home at 10 )
Next time
Andrew
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