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Old 31 January 2018, 12:07   #1
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Originally had been looking for 5.5 to 6 m rib however have seen a 6.5m Humber destroyer for sale. It’s a 2004 package with a 115hp fuel injected four stroke mercury.
Am tempted to stretch my original budget to buy it but was wondering is a 115hp a bit small for the hull size?
Whole package looks to be in very good condition and has around 350 hours from new. Anyone care to offer an opinion on what it’s worth?

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Old 31 January 2018, 12:52   #2
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115 is at the low end for that size of boat, but it depends what you intend to use it for. If there's 2 of you going out fishing, it'll be ok. If you're going to stick 4 divers & kit into it, it will struggle. No idea what it's worth without seeing it, RIBs are notoriously difficult to value, it's all down to condition, toys, location & how much the buyer wants it. If it has original toys, they will be getting dated by now. Has the engine been looked after/serviced? What state is the trailer in? All these can have a major impact on price.
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“Mercury 115 four stroke outboard very good condition runs faultless allways flushed after use

Hull very good condition never been anti fouled and allways dry stored out of the water

Tubes in very good condition no repairs and hold air indefinitely.hardly any fadeing due to it is dry stored inside

Braked roller trailer good condition with spare wheel and led light board

Gps chart plotter
Vhf radio
Fishfinder echosounder
Boarding ladder and anchor

Very good all round package handles rough choppy sea very well.fast boat with good fuel economy.in excellent condition and allready to go.”

Will be used for cruising/ fun with the family, probably no more than 3-4 on board. Also a bit of fishing.
It does look to be in great condition going by the photos.
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Old 31 January 2018, 14:35   #4
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“Mercury 115 four stroke outboard very good condition runs faultless allways flushed after use

Hull very good condition never been anti fouled and allways dry stored out of the water

Tubes in very good condition no repairs and hold air indefinitely.hardly any fadeing due to it is dry stored inside

Braked roller trailer good condition with spare wheel and led light board

Gps chart plotter
Vhf radio
Fishfinder echosounder
Boarding ladder and anchor

Very good all round package handles rough choppy sea very well.fast boat with good fuel economy.in excellent condition and allready to go.”

Will be used for cruising/ fun with the family, probably no more than 3-4 on board. Also a bit of fishing.
It does look to be in great condition going by the photos.


Another thing to consider is that Humber used to sell bare hulls for punters or dealers to fit out "after market". There are some poor examples out there. There have been horror stories of rotten transoms due unsealed holes letting water into the ply. Consoles & seats held in with self tappers etc. I'm not trying to put a downer on it, just making you aware of what you could be letting yourself in for.
Caveat emptor as always. If it's a good example with no major flaws I'd expect it to be in the £5-7k area. Bear in mind that Humber occupies the budget end of the UK built rib market. I'd want to give it a good going over & a sea trial before I parted with any cash.
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In that vintage the 115 merc is actually a yamaha in disguise, I had the 100hp version of the engine in 2006 on a 5.6 boat and it struggled 4 up to get out of hole. The extra 15hp is all at the top end so I suspect unless it is lightly built it won't be a rocket ship.

My setup had double size console with suicide seat and 4 jockey seats for info. Boat was avon adventure 5.6.

Seatrial is a must so you can see if it works for you.
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All advice is welcome tbh, I traveled to Southampton last week to see a boat which turned out to be a turd so am trying to avoid a repeat.
If I could buy it for between 5 and 7k I’d probably already have made plans, as it stands it’s going to take another couple of grand to buy.
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https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/...nal-rib/204757

Had enquiry about this but unfortunately it’s sold.
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Something not right there....you can't get a 2005 ribcraft of that size for that money, wonder what the catch is.....

Of course boats and outboards is known for never having scams on it...NOT, be very careful on boats and outboards!!!!

As a comparison that sold a good few months ago now-

http://www.ribsforsale.com/detail-14...nd+trailer.htm
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Something not right there....you can't get a 2005 ribcraft of that size for that money, wonder what the catch is.


Oh I dunno! Looks like she's kept afloat, probably anti-fouled, no mention of a trailer, looks like she needs a good fettle, priced to sell.
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I've never seen a 585 at that price never mind a 6.4 with let's be honest, a tidy amount of kit on it and including a decent auxiliary.

If that boat was legit someone won a watch. Chuck a 1500 to 2000 grand trailer under it and you have a cracking package there for not a lot of money in rib terms.
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I've never seen a 585 at that price never mind a 6.4 with let's be honest, a tidy amount of kit on it and including a decent auxiliary.

If that boat was legit someone won a watch. Chuck a 1500 to 2000 grand trailer under it and you have a cracking package there for not a lot of money in rib terms.
That’s what I thought tbh.
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Something not right there....you can't get a 2005 ribcraft of that size for that money, wonder what the catch is.....

Of course boats and outboards is known for never having scams on it...NOT, be very careful on boats and outboards!!!!

As a comparison that sold a good few months ago now-

Used Ribcraft 7.8 RIB with Mercury Optimax V6 Outboard engine and trailer. - £19,995.00
That 6.8 is now ours, and I thought (before I had the engine serviced...) that it was quite a good deal. That 6.4 does look on the very low side but the tube condition and lack of a trailer would put a lot of people off I guess so not unreasonable.
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Viny31,

Without seeing and testing the boat, a valuation is difficulrt. However if it is more of a leisure looking rib, rather than a commercial looking one and it all works; iI'd see it at about £10k or just under, if that helps
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Without seeing and testing the boat, a valuation is difficulrt. However if it is more of a leisure looking rib, rather than a commercial looking one and it all works; iI'd see it at about £10k or just under, if that helps


That's why it's difficult. I can't see £10k in a 14 year old, underpowered Humber. That's why I added the caveat about "how much the buyer wants it"
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Another thing to consider is that Humber used to sell bare hulls for punters or dealers to fit out "after market". There are some poor examples out there. There have been horror stories of rotten transoms due unsealed holes letting water into the ply. Consoles & seats held in with self tappers etc. I'm not trying to put a downer on it, just making you aware of what you could be letting yourself in for
Having previously been involved in fitting out of Humbers as a third party for the past 20 years, all the above sounds like it has come straight out of Humbers factory.

To be fair the hulls and tubes themselves I think are excellent.
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Thanks folks, appreciate the help and advice. Boat is advertised at 10k.
Will have to give it some more consideration, felt it could be lacking some Hp.
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For another £5000 you could get new ocean pro
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Just like that, bosh, found 5 grand down back of sofa.

Just for info, the advertised prices for ribs are usually like buying a car...minus engine, seats, radio, satnav, trailer etc.

Breezeblock bought a new 5.3 humber last year, 15k doesn't get you close to the water.
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For another £5000 you could get new ocean pro


Aye, but nae engine, trailer etc etc etc [emoji848][emoji848]
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