6-6.5 RIB advice please - Page 4

chewy · 05 August 2009, 20:34

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

200 looks/sounds so much better than 150 eh?

Depends how high you fly?

Chris · 05 August 2009, 20:39

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

OK, your engine point is noted, and I imagine that I will go for a 150 but it would be nice to have a 200 if a nice second hand one comes in. I know its a bit sad and unneccessary, but I for one look at the hp rating of any boat with an o/b I see, and 200 looks/sounds so much better than 150 eh?

I will proobably also look at a suzu to buy over here, because my freind at the boat yard is a suzu specialist

I would rather have a new 150 over a second hand 200 but I guess thats just my way of thinking.

I would love to have one of the big block 200 E-tecs on the back but they do weigh quite a lot more than the small blocks and although the 6.5 could take the weight I think it would not be as well balanced a boat as a result.

Anyway based on your earlier comment "Rogue Wave - great seakeeping not mad about speed, but preferably cruise 30-35knts" I think you would be happy with a 150

Chris

gotchiguy · 05 August 2009, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Chris

I would love to have one of the big block 200 E-tecs on the back but they do weigh quite a lot more than the small blocks and although the 6.5 could take the weight I think it would not be as well balanced a boat as a result.

Chris

From the 2007 etec brochure it appears that the 200 and the 150 both weigh 194kg?

Chris · 05 August 2009, 21:00

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

From the 2007 etec brochure it appears that the 200 and the 150 both weigh 194kg?

Its the 200HO or high output version its based on the larger 90 degree 3.3litre block used in the 225 and 250

bedajim · 05 August 2009, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Chris

I would rather have a 150 over a 200 but I guess thats just my way of thinking.

I would love to have one of the big block 200 E-tecs on the back but they do weigh quite a lot more than the small blocks and although the 6.5 could take the weight I think it would not be as well balanced

Chris

bollox you'd go 200HO everytime, who wouldn't

gotchiguy · 05 August 2009, 21:22

I imagine thAt it be my ignorance but why would you go for a high output 200 over a normal one? Surely this would decrease your top speed becuse isn't ho just a thrust type of sailpower spec type engine?? Or would the acceleration just be so phenomenal that you wouldn't mind?

Hightower · 05 August 2009, 23:32

Yeh go for the 200, your cruising speed will be increased without a noticable drop in fuel consuption. You'd also have plenty of grunt when needed.

Don't know how much VAT you're charged in France but with any savings from the boat purchase, could you not invest in a new outboard?

Downhilldai · 06 August 2009, 00:34

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Originally Posted by bedajim

bollox you'd go 200HO everytime, who wouldn't

bedajim · 06 August 2009, 06:14

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

I imagine thAt it be my ignorance but why would you go for a high output 200 over a normal one? Surely this would decrease your top speed becuse isn't ho just a thrust type of sailpower spec type engine?? Or would the acceleration just be so phenomenal that you wouldn't mind?

Chris is the ex spert but I belive it gives you 225 horses on the Etec and while you're at it you want the 220 litre fuel tank to give you maximum range if you go for a Vipermax, no point in having all that grunt if you've got to tow a fuel barge

gotchiguy · 06 August 2009, 09:36

Oooooooohhhhhh.... I must say I'm torn between the two!! I think I might compromise with a 175 :P or a normal 200? But the 200H.O. sownds GGGRRRR88888!!!! lol I think Probable a normal 200or the 175 in white will do me fine found this 200 http://www.ribstuff.com/component/pa...art/Itemid,29/ I cant find an ho at the moment, but the 175 is also on the ribstuff site, Ill have another quick peek at boats and outboards....Icidentallyu, I had a wierd dream where I specifically had a Yamaha 200 fitted 2 mi Pro?!

Gotchi

Chris · 06 August 2009, 09:53

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Originally Posted by bedajim

bollox you'd go 200HO everytime, who wouldn't

Me

I would want to go to a 7 meter before fitting the heavier block.

gotchiguy · 06 August 2009, 09:59

Unfortunatly I cant go above 6.5m! Would the 200ho really unbalance it soo much? It says in the brochure that its 258kg?! The Yami is 270+!!!!!! Can the 6.5 not cope with the extra weight of a modern 2 stroke?!

Chris · 06 August 2009, 10:03

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

Oooooooohhhhhh.... I must say I'm torn between the two!! I think I might compromise with a 175 :P or a normal 200? But the 200H.O. sownds GGGRRRR88888!!!! lol I think Probable a normal 200or the 175 in white will do me fine found this 200 http://www.ribstuff.com/component/pa...art/Itemid,29/ I cant find an ho at the moment, but the 175 is also on the ribstuff site, Ill have another quick peek at boats and outboards....Icidentallyu, I had a wierd dream where I specifically had a Yamaha 200 fitted 2 mi Pro?!

Gotchi

600 hours use in a commercial environment and still £9,000 seems a bit on the high side to me. I had a quote a couple of months ago when I was considering upgrading to the 200 and it was about £10,500 for a new one.

Chris · 06 August 2009, 10:09

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

Unfortunatly I cant go above 6.5m! Would the 200ho really unbalance it soo much? It says in the brochure that its 258kg?! The Yami is 270+!!!!!! Can the 6.5 not cope with the extra weight of a modern 2 stroke?!

Of course the 6.5 can cope. However just bear in mind that the difference between Yam and the etec 150 is 80KGs. Thats like having an average built bloke hanging of your transom all the time. Of course it will have an impact on the way the boat rides especially at lower speeds.

Chris · 06 August 2009, 10:11

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Originally Posted by bedajim

bollox you'd go 200HO everytime, who wouldn't

Just realised in your post you changed my quote Jim

I was referring to the fact that I would rather a new 150 over a used 200.

Thanks !

Downhilldai · 06 August 2009, 10:34

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

..I had a wierd dream where I specifically had a Yamaha 200 fitted 2 mi Pro?!

Gotchi

Would that be a Yam HPDI?

Pablo · 06 August 2009, 10:42

I take it you know Marc Dano who supply Osprey and Solent RIBs in Brittany : http://www.atlanticribs.com/
And Jean-Maurice the Revenger dealer : http://www.sasproconcept.com/
And of course CapBreizh the Brittany based rib website : http://www.capbreizh.com
with it's forum : http://www.capbreizh.com/phpbb/

?

gotchiguy · 06 August 2009, 11:00

Yes I have seen atlantis ribs osp[rey dealer and have followed cap breizh for a couple of years now. I think however with the stock exchange as it is, the euro-pound exchange makes a purchase in Britain and bringing over alot more viable!

They dont make the HPDI anymore do they?! It was a mistake in mmy last post, I meant modern 4 stroke... typo!!

Vis a vis hp rating Ill probably go for a 175 or a normal 200, will liase with roy nearer the time!

Gotchi

Downhilldai · 06 August 2009, 11:08

If you go for a Yam or Soozook 4 stroke, I'd recommend you specify an XL transom (In fact, I'd recommend an XL transom for any motor on a 6.5 Vipermax)

Pablo · 06 August 2009, 11:16

Osprey being a Belgium company i'm not sure they'll being any advantage buying from either France or the UK. Have you considered Solent? I was quite impressed by their 6.5m but then i've never been in an Osprey. The 6.5 is a bit longer than 6.5m however. They're a fair few hanging around Brittany.

Will you be considering fishing and things like that? You'll want tube that touch the water at rest for stability if that is the case.

The Humber dealer is based in Lorient & Vannes : http://www.navy-pro.com/