6-6.5 RIB advice please - Page 8

Downhilldai · 30 September 2009, 23:17

gotchiguy: It sounds like you're living in a dream world.
Trying to 'buy' a RIB which wasn't advertised for sale, then criticising the 'seller' for not wishing to proceed with the 'sale'. Editing your posts, to avoid replying to reasonable questions. Next we hear, you've arranged to view/sea-trial/buy a 'better' RIB, the details of which you're reluctant to share. It sounds a bit like this mythical Osprey that you oh so nearly 'bought' Good luck.

Mollers · 01 October 2009, 08:01

Ummm, . The seller stated the the price was 'non-negotiable', perhaps he felt that he was going to go to the lengths of a sea-trial and was still going to get hit on the price. Chucking caveats in such as 'service' and 'cover alterations' are all very well, but these small considerations cost £100's of pounds. If the boat was well priced to begin with and one of the most sought after models, perhaps you were trying to squeeze him a little too hard.

gotchiguy · 01 October 2009, 11:31

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Ummm, . The seller stated the the price was 'non-negotiable', perhaps he felt that he was going to go to the lengths of a sea-trial and was still going to get hit on the price. Chucking caveats in such as 'service' and 'cover alterations' are all very well, but these small considerations cost £100's of pounds. If the boat was well priced to begin with and one of the most sought after models, perhaps you were trying to squeeze him a little too hard.

I know exactly what you mean. I simply stated some of the things that I would like to be done to it. I understand exactly how he may have felt if he thought that I was going to try to haggle hard on price after he had spend the £100+ on trailering the boat down to the solent plus fuel etc etc. Looking back over what I wrote I see how insensitive i was and I think I was far too negative about the seller. If I had known then what I know now (I have done a lot of research into others makes and new boats etc) I would probably have gone straight in at the asking price.

But thats in the past now.

We must move on.

Downhilldai · 01 October 2009, 12:20

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We must move on

What's it going to be next?

gotchiguy · 01 October 2009, 13:11

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What's it going to be next?

Aaahh now thats a secret. suffice to say that i'm planning to put in an offer on something else within the next couple of days...

Downhilldai · 01 October 2009, 20:53

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Aaahh now thats a secret.

Children will play.

gotchiguy · 01 October 2009, 21:09

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Children will play.

Mollers · 24 October 2009, 15:21

Gotchi, If I were you, I'd drop the secret squirrel sh*t and listen to the advice you're being given from guy's who know what they're talking about. That way you might end up with the right boat. You lost one of the best boats currently on the market by coming the 'smart arse'.

gotchiguy · 05 November 2009, 17:39

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an etec 200 in white and maroon/red tubes to keep in the bloodline of the pro

I think i'll pass on the high output an get a standard 200 or just 175. At some stage I imagine I will ask for the names of some of your suppliers so that I can source from the same place to keep cost down

adios, Gotchi

Well, today I placed a final deposit towards my new boat... I've looked over many of these "advice" threads, and very few of the OPs ever conclude it with what they decided on.

Looking back now on the quote above, it is so obvious how things get inflated!

My original budget has been increased by 50% and its not a 175hp 6.5m, but a 250HO 7metre!!

I also found this quote earlier on...

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I understand that no Vipermax owner would be seen in anything other than red this season with Mr. Bish leading the way.

How apt

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Ouch !

Sounds like you have a plan! i look forward to seeing the finished result.

Even more ouch now I'm afraid Chris!

Downhilldai · 05 November 2009, 17:48

Nice boat - well done.

matt h · 05 November 2009, 18:24

fantastic awesome boat!! looks really nice

JSP · 05 November 2009, 18:46

Cool

Enjoy

Jizm · 05 November 2009, 18:46

Nice boat,

love the osprey coffee cups....

Mollers · 05 November 2009, 19:49

A good spec. Roy is a little anti A frames, I think the boat would benefit aestthetically for having one. What top speed is it achieving with the HO and which prop is it running?

gotchiguy · 05 November 2009, 20:15

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A good spec. Roy is a little anti A frames, I think the boat would benefit aestthetically for having one. What top speed is it achieving with the HO and which prop is it running?

I agree about the a frame, and this is a seperate point that I will seek advise about in the next couple of days re nav lights etc. Its spinning a 22" Viper possible 15 1/2dia but im not sure about the dia. In the previous post where I said I was putting an offer in, it was on a solent 6.5 with a 200ho (he wanted too much, and it fe;ll thru) and that had a 4 blade rebel and that acheived 65knots!!

In the SB&R article it quotes 57mph@5.2krevs but it now revs to 5.8k so i dont know the speed now! Do you think it would benefit from a 4 blade? I know it wouldn't increase WOT but would it benefit economy! It burns 100l+ flat out

Mollers · 05 November 2009, 20:32

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In the SB&R article it quotes 57mph@5.2krevs but it now revs to 5.8k so i dont know the speed now!

The best I've had out of mine is 49.1knts running a 4 blade. The Solent is considerably lighter than a Vipermax.

gotchiguy · 05 November 2009, 20:41

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The best I've had out of mine is 49.1knts running a 4 blade. The Solent is considerably lighter than a Vipermax.

Well with 25hp extra, I should be able to make 52/3

? Do you think it would benefit from a 4 blader?

Quite a list of things that I want fixed/added/done etc. so I hope maybe complete b4 ~20th december (Have to find a cheap date to stick it on the ferry)

gotchiguy · 05 November 2009, 20:42

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Nice boat,

love the osprey coffee cups....

Me too

Chris · 05 November 2009, 20:50

I think Roy was getting around 50 knots out of it however I know he tried a couple of different props. If you fit a 4 blade prop you will probably losse some top end speed but gain holeshot, I would stick with the Viper it is the best all rounder IMO.

The Ideal RPM for this motor at WOT is 5600 so you are probably pretty close to ideal propping, You could try a 23" pitch viper or perhaps a Raker if you wanted to wring out every last knot.

Be careful with those trim tabs you could have the first Osprey Submarine if you get carried away

gotchiguy · 05 November 2009, 21:00

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I think Roy was getting around 50 knots out of it however I know he tried a couple of different props. If you fit a 4 blade prop you will probably losse some top end speed but gain holeshot, I would stick with the Viper it is the best all rounder IMO.

The Ideal RPM for this motor at WOT is 5600 so you are probably pretty close to ideal propping, You could try a 23" pitch viper or perhaps a Raker if you wanted to wring out every last knot.

Be careful with those trim tabs you could have the first Osprey Submarine if you get carried away

Strange, when looking at the thread it says "try a 22" Viper" but when it comes up in the reply page when I quote it says 23"? I assume you mean 23 'cos its already got a 22! I imagine I'll leave it as it is though.