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26 August 2016, 12:47
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...a bit Strappy
When it's time for delivery, specify that you want the boat tying down properly, not like this
https://www.facebook.com/HumberRibs/...02097828964212
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26 August 2016, 16:47
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
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Not sure I'd agree, the second post says the boat is secured by the winch and eyes on the transom with straps as well, what's the harm in the straps over tubes as well? We do this amidships just as a secondary thing.
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26 August 2016, 17:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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...a bit Strappy
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
Not sure I'd agree, the second post says the boat is secured by the winch and eyes on the transom with straps as well, what's the harm in the straps over tubes as well? We do this amidships just as a secondary thing.
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What's the point of strapping over the tubes? It's akin to tying down a blancmange. The tubes aren't a fixed point, they give, they soften when cooled causing the straps to come loose. All you are doing is stressing the tubes in a fashion they aren't designed for. If you want to keep the boat on the trailer, you need solid fixing points. All strapping over the tubes does is rub the tubes, it's folly & give a false sense of security to those who don't know any better.
As you might have gathered it's one of my pet hates🙄
All just my opinion obviously😏
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26 August 2016, 18:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: teesside
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Make: humber 5.5
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I agree with pikey dave your just adding problem areas and getting no positive points at all
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26 August 2016, 18:21
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Absolutely!!!
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26 August 2016, 18:54
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Using "over tube" strapping on a RIB is, IMO, a cultural memory from the old BSAC inflatable days - when SIBs were strapped down to bunk trailers. I really can't see any point in doing it to a RIB, unless you think your U bolts might be suspect? Even then it's fairly pointless as the tubes flex enough to allow the RIB jump up and down - so not really "belts & braces", more "belts and frilly knickers"... 
Strapping down deflated tubes is a different ball of wax entirely - I do this all the time but for different reasons. Vital NOT to include the trailer in this equation.
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26 August 2016, 19:42
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Town: Wakefield
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Make: Redbay Stormforce
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
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We never got a bite on this one did we 😉 must have known we where right 😁
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26 August 2016, 20:15
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Originally Posted by mick
We never got a bite on this one did we �� must have known we where right ��
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Apparently there's quite a few people wrong on Youtube's comment pages too - a couple of auld fellas with strong feelings and clipboards could make a killing over there....
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26 August 2016, 20:20
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
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Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
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That's nothing. Driving back from Glasgow earlier in the year on the motorway I passed a car with a kingsize mattress strapped to the roof with what look like garden twine! Thing was bent double with the wind... reckon they were getting 10mpg! 
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26 August 2016, 20:41
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Originally Posted by spartacus
That's nothing.
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Pffft! Think that's something? 10 miles from me:
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26 August 2016, 20:42
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Is that a Rover 75? I've never seen the interior... 
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26 August 2016, 20:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Apparently there's quite a few people wrong on Youtube's comment pages too - a couple of auld fellas with strong feelings and clipboards could make a killing over there....
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Show me the way......
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26 August 2016, 21:43
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Boat name: Tickler
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Originally Posted by willk
Pffft! Think that's something? 10 miles from me:
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It a Hayundai.
I'll get my coat.
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26 August 2016, 21:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuyC
It a Hayundai.
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"Hayudoin' gord - thon's a quare gud lukin Bangord ye hov thur"...
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26 August 2016, 21:58
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Weigh station said it was 1600lbs before I dumped it off at the dump.
This was 2 1/2 years ago! Car is still running/driving.
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26 August 2016, 22:02
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This one always took the prize for me!! 
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26 August 2016, 22:11
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Originally Posted by idsebby
Weigh station said it was 1600lbs before I dumped it off at the dump.
This was 2 1/2 years ago! Car is still running/driving.
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I'm shocked dude! Easy knowing yer a yank! No-one from the Déise would have tipped daycint timber like tha!
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27 August 2016, 00:01
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Well funny enough is when I was tipping my mostly rot infested wood I was tempted to just load it up with other wood I found there. So much good timber just thrown out.
And If you only knew me you would not say such terrible thing. I have pretty much built a few houses with recycled wood. My wife has to force me to throw out stuff, the struggle is real .
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27 August 2016, 00:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idsebby
when I was tipping my mostly rot infested wood I was tempted to just load it up with other wood I found there.
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OK so, there may be hope for ye yet! ;-)
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27 August 2016, 06:50
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Not to stir the pot with the old guard in this thread but I will have to say I have seen many worse tie downs in my life.
Looking at the first photo (white rib) I see a separate tie down on the bow and the winch connected to the bow. I also see a tie down on the stern to trailer. Nothing wrong with that.
In the second pic I see the same thing but I can not see a tie down on the stern, not to say there isn't one on the starboard side out of frame. There a reputable lot so if they say they did then I will believe it until proven otherwise.
The straps over the tubes is something I see often done in the UK and without anything else but the winch on bow. I wouldn't condone that but I don't see that in those two pics and info given.
This dealer appears have added the straps over the tubes as a secondary back up tie down. While not necessary, I don't think it would bring too much harm to the tubes if well protected (soft side of carpet facing down) and not too tight (as seen in pics) and not going too far (1 day). It certainly wouldn't bother me if I was driving behind it on motor way knowing there's extra hold down straps on a boat in front of me.
I once witnessed a J-24 sailboat do cart wheels off a trailer that fishtailed and wasn't tied down well but it was tied down in several locations. Once you see something like that you'll always add extra straps for the what if's.
The people at Humber seem to be good respectable people and make solid ribs at a fair price and should be supported for that. They've been in the business for a long time and I'm almost sure this was not the first two ribs that have left the factory tied down like this and if it was a problem reported by customers then I'm sure they would have changed the way they tie the boats down for there customers.
I have no affiliation with them and yes we could nit pick with there tie downs but it's not terrible until proven otherwise and just thought we should be commending Humber for their service to the boating community. I would love to continue to see more utilitarian Humbers on the water as long as there not all colored in safety orange.
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