Abolishing excise duty on Ptrol.....

eupa · 05 June 2005, 16:19

Now thats a good idea....... take off all the excise duty on petrol and instigate a mileage charge .... That means that ribbers/gardeners ect.. will be able to buy petrol at 35 p a liter.. .
Results - no traffic on the m25 the Thames crowded with ribbers going to work in London, The canals likewise and the coastal areas jammed with people and small boats. Not a bad idea Mr. Darling ... but absolute CRAP.

Jonathan

Simon666 · 05 June 2005, 18:48

Crap indeed.
I hear they want to fit GPS sat tracking to our cars to only see how far we have travelled so they can bill us by the mile (£1.30 per mile)
This of course will never be used to abuse our human rights like finding out where we have been and how fast we been driving.
Still taking the duty off petrol is a good idea!

codprawn · 05 June 2005, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Simon666

Crap indeed.
I hear they want to fit GPS sat tracking to our cars to only see how far we have travelled so they can bill us by the mile (£1.30 per mile)
This of course will never be used to abuse our human rights like finding out where we have been and how fast we been driving.
Still taking the duty off petrol is a good idea!

Great - to get from one side of London to the other will ONLY cost about £80 - do that 5 times a week and you are talking £400 - a mere drop in the ocean.............

codprawn · 05 June 2005, 19:21

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Great - to get from one side of London to the other will ONLY cost about £80 - do that 5 times a week and you are talking £400 - a mere drop in the ocean.............

Whoops - thats ONE way - try £800 per week!!!!

gavin · 05 June 2005, 21:15

Petrol in Ireland only 97 cent euro a litre ha ha

codprawn · 05 June 2005, 22:44

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Originally Posted by gavin

Petrol in Ireland only 97 cent euro a litre ha ha

You don't have Tony B Liar to contend with - tell you what - we will gladly swop him for ALL your tinkers - whoops forgot - they are here anyway!!!

gavin · 06 June 2005, 10:30

It used be the case, we would go over the border to Northern Ireland, fill up with cheaper fuel, now all the NI border stations are gone, closed up and everyone travels over to the Free State to buy their fuel in Euroland with Euros, contributing hugely to the Irish Economy, as even at 97 cent a litre, a lot of revenue goes to the Govt coffers.It used to be the opposite years ago, but in border areas it is easy for people to make the switch, as loglisticly its only a hop across to Southern Ireland.Thats probably why Bertie gets on so well with Tony, Tony is working for us.........

Jackwabbit · 06 June 2005, 15:14

I’m sure everyone, in the real world can see that this system won’t work!

But there again politicians don’t live in the real world; this just goes to prove what every one knew in the first place “they live in cloud cuckoo-land”.

The logistics of trying to get all vehicles fitted with the new TAX box, & tracking the millions of vehicles travelling billions of miles in this country don’t bear thinking about.
Let alone trying to get the money off of people, and what happens to the number of people who could no longer afford to travel to work? I suppose their only option will be to go on state benefit.
Basic pay £22,000
Tax per year £4,488
Pension per year £1,740
NI per year £2,028
Mileage TAX at £1.30 £13,520

OOPS that’s only going to leave me with £224 per year to live on

What are they trying to do? Bring the country to a standstill?

eupa · 06 June 2005, 15:18

OOPS that’s only going to leave me with £224 per year to live on

You will just have to get another job.......

Jonathan

Jackwabbit · 06 June 2005, 15:22

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Originally Posted by eupa

OOPS that’s only going to leave me with £224 per year to live on

You will just have to get another job.......

Jonathan

That's a good idea!

Then I could pay £27,000 milage tax

why didn't I think of that

eupa · 06 June 2005, 15:29

That's a good idea!
Then I could pay £27,000 milage tax
why didn't I think of that

Well you will just have to get a third job..........

Jonathan

eupa · 06 June 2005, 15:35

This of course will never be used to abuse our human rights like finding out where we have been and how fast we been driving.
Still taking the duty off petrol is a good idea!

Whenever, did anybody living in the UK have any rights in the first place....
Dont forget "you are a British subject" and not a "citizen" . The queen - god bless her cotton socks - can do anything she pleases with you..... great country!!!!!!!!

Jonathan

Scary Des · 06 June 2005, 15:39

The issue here is that it helps the wrong people

if you live in town and only do a few miles per year then you will be better off, but these are the people who have access to good public transport and because they are only doing a few miles per year really don’t need a car

but people who really need a car because they are doing hundreds of miles a day either between cities or because they live in the remoter parts of the country will get hit because they will have no alternative but to drive

I worked out how much it would cost me currently to do my typical business trip by public transport. It would only cost four times as much when you compare fuel to tickets but the time required to make connections etc meant I couldn’t do it in a day and in fact it might even be tricky to do it in two days.

So how can I do my job with out using my car

and the answer is I couldn’t

Still back to ribs, if you think the government will not take this opportunity to hit fuel used on boats you haven’t been paying attentions

Des

jewels · 06 June 2005, 16:48

I heard a politician on the radio today say this new "road pricing" idea is not a "revenue raising measure" (oops....that flying pig just missed me!!). He tried to argue it would not cost the "average" motorist anymore.....who at present pays out £1.30ish in fuel for each mile, even at our fuel prices? Unless your name's Michael Schumacher and you've taken your gran out for a pizza in the Formula One!! Surely a basic qualification to be a politicain should be O level maths!! And...er...a hint of common sense!

He also said the measures were to discourage the "motorist" from using "busy routes" at "busy times" and those routes would be priced the highest! So we all respond by getting to work either very very early or better still very very late via the great British network of single track lanes with passing places...and farm tracks!

I'm off to eat chocolate!

Julie