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11 July 2008, 21:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Boat name: if only you knew!
Make: n/a
Length: 10m +
Engine: large
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 228
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Advice on 5mtr for training...!
Who would you say builds the best value 5 mtr Rib that would spend its life pontoon bashing for PBL 2's?
Look forward to your comments... :-)
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11 July 2008, 21:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
MMSI: 235082826/235909566
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,439
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nikster
Who would you say builds the best value 5 mtr Rib that would spend its life pontoon bashing for PBL 2's?
Look forward to your comments... :-)
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XS every time for me
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11 July 2008, 21:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
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Did my PB2 in an XS 550 with a 90 Merc... Great boat for first experience of ribbing.
Also Osprey Viper 5.25 is very much my favourite (it would have to be as it was my first boat) I don't think Osprey make these anymore however they do come up for sale from time to time.
I guess considerations have to be plenty of space, strongly built, easy handling oh and a good set of fenders!!
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12 July 2008, 00:12
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Member
Country: UK - Isle of Man
Town: Douglas
Length: no boat
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 339
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I'm a Humber Ocean Pro 5m fan, allied to a 70 hp 4-Stroke outboard. Very strong and good when the going gets a bit rough!!
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12 July 2008, 03:12
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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I did my training in a Ribeye 5m ish with an 80hp Yamaha - great fun. My instructor has had the boat for quite a few years now and he loves it.
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14 July 2008, 13:09
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Oban (mostly)
Make: Ribcraft, Humber,BWM
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboards
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 632
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We've had Tornado, Valiant, Humber and Ribcraft boats at the school - and of those, the Ribcraft has been by far the best. I've visited lots of other schools for their annual inspections or to run courses for them, and I'd also agree with those who like XS. (And I'd add Avon to my "like" list too).
When you talk about value, build quality is important - the best value boat for training isn't likely to be a cheap one, but will last well and continue to give good service despite treatment that from time to time is rather harsher than you might like!
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14 July 2008, 20:31
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Riberty
Make: xs 650
Length: 6m +
Engine: suzuki 175
MMSI: 235063328
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 377
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Another vote for XS 550 - although i have just spent the last 7 days teaching in a Avon 5.4 good boat but prefer the extra width of an XS (of course i would say that as i own a 650 :-) )
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15 July 2008, 16:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 30
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We've got some seariders (c. 1980), two ribcrafts (4.8 and 5.45 c. 2000) and 2 rib-x (5.2 and 6.5 c.2006) amongst others.
Obviously searider tubes are tough as old boots, so for pontoon bashing ability alone, a 5.4 or whatever would be ideal. But they're also a little bit agricultural looking to use with 'clients' and also are a tiny bit wet as well!
The two ribx boats look pretty, and the hulls are good but the fitout feels a little flimsy, and the tube quality is definitely not that good, and we've had a few significant problems on the smaller boat.
Which leaves the Ribcrafts. Both are very well made, dry, well fitted out boats with very strong tubes and a very forgiving and seaworthy hull design. However we find that the 4.8 is a tad small when teaching PB2 with three clients onboard. Given the heavy use they've had over the last 8 years, they're looking really good still!
That was just a really long winded way of saying 'go ribcraft!' When eliciting feedback, it might be worth thinking about whether the people recommending a particular brand are in some sort of 'close working relationship' with a particular manufacturer. As you can see by the mixed fleet and the fact that we're a university, we have no connection with any of the above manufacturers, aside from being happy customers.
Matt
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15 July 2008, 18:05
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: cookoo land
Boat name: tba
Make: ribcraft 595
Length: under 3m
Engine: Suzi 140
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 316
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Ribcraft 585 140 suzi 4stroke
Can't go far wrong if you've got the budget.
PM sent
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15 July 2008, 18:44
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Administrator
Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 7,109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassBoy
Ribcraft 585 140 suzi 4stroke
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That would be way more engine than you need on a teaching boat. I'd suggest that a 90 would be much more suitable.
John
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15 July 2008, 19:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: cookoo land
Boat name: tba
Make: ribcraft 595
Length: under 3m
Engine: Suzi 140
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 316
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more than you need
John
Yes, 140 is more than you 'need', but bear in mind that ribcraft is a heavy boat. it will be working at 2/3 output for the high speed/passage elements of most courses instead of screaming its nuts off, will have a similar fuel economy (same block) , will be more fun on and off the training course, and have an 'easier'/'better' resale value IMHO
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15 July 2008, 20:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Boat name: if only you knew!
Make: n/a
Length: 10m +
Engine: large
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 228
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Thanks every one........ question seems to have been answered, and a few pm's from the mfr's to throw in as well.... once again thanks
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16 July 2008, 09:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: gateshead
Boat name: rubber duck
Make: humber
Length: 5m +
Engine: mercury 115 opti 08
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 40
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hello nickster,the xs550 does look a great boat and of course are the ribcrafts but so is the price.For value for money humbers can't be beaten.
5.3 destroyer,absolute fantastic boat,solid,loads of deck space and excellent in the rough stuff.
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16 July 2008, 15:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Length: no boat
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 89
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I did my PB 2 in Evolution and Old Spice, great for pontoon bashing! ( and still are with my driving)
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