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11 March 2017, 19:58
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Advice please.
I have my eyes on an Avon 620 adventure (2007) with Yamaha 150hp. Very little instrumentation. Trailer included. In overall good condition.
Asking price is £19000. I've offered £15000.
Now I know price is almost literally in the eye of the beholder.
However I would welcome your expert comments.
Thanks
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11 March 2017, 20:01
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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Originally Posted by j.i.wilson
I've offered £15000.
Now I know price is almost literally in the eye of the beholder.
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True enough. Personally, I'd call him back and offer a bit less?
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11 March 2017, 21:52
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RIBnet admin team
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Length: 4m +
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I've just noticed that this thread was originally posted in "RIBs for sale" and as such - no-one but Admin could reply. I've moved it here so the Adventure owners can now bail in and give me grief!
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11 March 2017, 22:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini + XS
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140/merc 60
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Mmm ,I have noticed several of this style of boat ,at 10 years or so old for this sort of money ,but to be honest I personally would,nt feel comfortable to buy a 10 year old 150hp engine no matter what it was mounted on without thinking What if ? ,what would the boat be worth without an engine ? ,maybe I am just a wimp, must say this is only my personnel uneducated opinion ,but then I am a potential customer for this type of boat ! ,but I would prefer at least a couple of years of engine warranty
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11 March 2017, 23:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: Thame
Boat name: Free-Flow
Make: Shearwater 6.8
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 175
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I would not worry too much about a 10 year old engine if it has reasonably low hours, and has been well maintained. My engine is 2005, but runs very sweetly.
I had an Adventure 560 before my Ribcraft. The Adventure gets a lot of criticism on Ribnet, and it is probably not the rib for very rough weather. If your boating is less ambitious, you do get a lot of boat for your money.
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12 March 2017, 09:32
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by Bucksribster
If your boating is less ambitious, you do get a lot of boat for your money.
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Surely that depends how much money - which is essentially the OP's question?
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12 March 2017, 09:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: portsmouth
Boat name: Hullabaloo
Make: Humber
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Optimax
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Difficult to be exact in price without a little more info (engine hours, service history, 4-stroke or HPDI, etc). However, I don't think £15k is too far out
Steve
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12 March 2017, 09:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Boat name: El Mono
Make: Ribtec 9M
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yanmar 315/Bravo III
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I can't comment on the price of this boat, but we had an Avon Adventure 620 with a Yam 115 4-stroke for a number of years, and it was a great all round boat. We kept it in the water year round and it was in constant use come rain or shine.
Agreed it's not the deepest V hull out there, and isn't the best choice for offshore cruising, but we never felt uncomfortable in ours in trips along the South Coast between IoW and Weymouth. With the 115 Yam it was beautifully balanced, and driven more considerately handled very nicely.
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12 March 2017, 10:12
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Not a big fan..it's ALL down to what you want to do with it...
Unless your 100% sure of your of Boating needs...and the Boats suitability for them...if not,you may very well need to do some more homework to avoid being disappointed in the future....and regret not purchasing a better made more robust boat with better sea keeping.
Happens... a lot
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12 March 2017, 17:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
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As said. I had a 560,l it was awful to the point of being unusable if it got really rough, the hulls are soooo thin, Such a shame as they could of got it so right.
Stupid outhill consoles didn't help held on by self tappers hence they went out of business as the level of new fit requests went out of the window.
I bought mine as a bare hull. (Its just a shorter version of the 6.2m) and built it up completely.
Personally I would look at Ribcraft 585 or bigger... XS Ribs even a later Ribeye.
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12 March 2017, 18:31
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this forum as you can see isn't the biggest avon adventure supporters club and it is understandable as Avon were the boys to beat not long ago in this size range.
having owned a 560 adventure i have no regrets but i came from a cabin boat so it was infinitely better than what i was in at the time.
i had no issues with the thickness of the hull on mine nor did any deck fittings come adrift at any time,YMMV.
are they as well built as my ribcraft-no, but they are not in the same price bracket as you would expect.
with that said, if you have 15k ish i would wait it out for something else.
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12 March 2017, 23:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: Thame
Boat name: Free-Flow
Make: Shearwater 6.8
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 175
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I think Debrus has said it all. My Adventure 560 was a good first rib for me, and not too much money. I never felt it was unsafe, and although some parts were not as well put together as they might be, it did me well.
However I like my Ribcraft 585 a lot more, but it was more money. It is a better sea boat and a better ride. It is also quite a lot heavier!
Something like a Ribeye might be a compromise between.
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13 March 2017, 00:50
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Thanks to you all for the construction comments.
I already own a Jeanneau Marlin 655 which I intend to keep. I want the RIB for waters ports and getting out in marginal weather for some fun. I also want to be able to chase the Fastnet boats as well as act as a camera platform for the Round the Island Race (just for mates - not professionally).
I am going to wait and search for a Rib eye or Ribcraft. I don't want to have to change boat again if I can avoid it. I could go to £20k for the right one.
Thanks again for your contributions - much appreciated.
Ian
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13 March 2017, 10:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Originally Posted by j.i.wilson
Thanks to you all for the construction comments.
I already own a Jeanneau Marlin 655 which I intend to keep. I want the RIB for waters ports and getting out in marginal weather for some fun. I also want to be able to chase the Fastnet boats as well as act as a camera platform for the Round the Island Race (just for mates - not professionally).
I am going to wait and search for a Rib eye or Ribcraft. I don't want to have to change boat again if I can avoid it. I could go to £20k for the right one.
Thanks again for your contributions - much appreciated.
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Given your intended use I.e a chase boat in "marginal conditions" then you've made the right decision imo. You need to be looking at the "industrial" end of the market rather than the leisure end. Naturally, I'd recommend Ribcraft [emoji6], but I would certainly have a 6.5 Redbay on your list, if you can find one. Also Osprey & the bigger Humbers, however, watch out for the build quality on the Humbers, it can vary.
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13 March 2017, 15:47
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Country: USA
Town: S. Carolina
Boat name: D560
Make: Avon
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I own an Adventure 560. The hull rides rough because of the profile. The planing pad is very large, so if you overtrim for high speeds, the keel does not hit the waves correctly. Also, it is a very light hull, around 325 kg if memory serves. I've noticed the ride quality when heavily loaded is MUCH better than with a light load.
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13 March 2017, 16:26
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Originally Posted by office888
I own an Adventure 560. The hull rides rough because of the profile. The planing pad is very large, so if you overtrim for high speeds, the keel does not hit the waves correctly. Also, it is a very light hull, around 325 kg if memory serves. I've noticed the ride quality when heavily loaded is MUCH better than with a light load.
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A bit of weight "generally" improves the ride on most boats in rough conditions. It keeps the hull in the water rather than bouncing along on the top. A bag of sand in the bow locker is greatly underrated [emoji106]
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13 March 2017, 17:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: brierley hill
Boat name: rocknrolla
Make: osprey
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
Not a big fan..it's ALL down to what you want to do with it...
Unless your 100% sure of your of Boating needs...and the Boats suitability for them...if not,you may very well need to do some more homework to avoid being disappointed in the future....and regret not purchasing a better made more robust boat with better sea keeping.
Happens... a lot
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13 March 2017, 22:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Lancashire
Make: Humber
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
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I've owned a 560 and would agree with Matt H's post.
In fact, with 15 - 20k to spend it would be bottom of my list!
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14 March 2017, 00:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Thame
Boat name: Free-Flow
Make: Shearwater 6.8
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 175
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If you are after a Ribcraft 585, you might contact Whisper on here as he seems to know of most of the ones for sale!
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