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23 August 2009, 20:36
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Ancher locker drain.
The Anchor locker in the Bows of The Nashers Revenge is formed by a bulkhead under the deck roughly as the Blue line on the image below.
When the anchor, chain and warp are dumped back in the locker the sea water runs off and collects in the bottom, and can only be removed with a sponge once all the gear has been removed from the locker.
I’d like to fit a drain like Yachts have to let the water out.
An added advantage is that I’d be able to chuck a bucket of fresh water in the locker to rinse the salt out of the warp occasionally, rather than wait until I drag it all out 2 or 3 times a year to wash it out in a bucket.
Unfortunately the bottom of the locker is just below the water line at rest, so I’m going to Glass in a false floor to the locker about 6 inches up, as per the Red line, which will be enough to raise a drain above the water line at rest.
This will of course create a sealed void in the hull, shown by the yellow shading, which I’m not too sure about.
Should I just leave it?
Or should I consider filling it with something?
Any thoughts would be appreciated, especially those from the RIB builders.
Thanks.
Nasher.
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23 August 2009, 20:43
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I'd fit the false floor and have a drain just above the waterline.
Atlantic that are kept bow down in sheds have a similar drain for the deck.
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23 August 2009, 21:16
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Hey Nasher - you've been quiet lately!
Sorry I'm not a RIB builder!* Are you concerned about what the void may do or what may happen within the void? My concerns would be "can it leak and fill with water?" and "then what?". You could pack the void with expansion foam or a polystyrene block. I'd favour the block as it won't break down or absorb (much) water, while maintaining the buoyancy of the void.
I have the same problem in my rib and live with it. I tell myself that extracting the two anchors and four lines etc. for drying, keeps me familiar with the contents of the locker!
It doesn't really help...
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23 August 2009, 21:26
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Town: Principalite d'Chaos
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Originally Posted by willk
Hey Nasher - you've been quiet lately!
Are you concerned about what the void may do or what may happen within the void? My concerns would be "can it leak and fill with water?" and "then what?".
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Hey Willk
Yep, been away, and also having lots of PC issues!
What you've said above is exactly my concern, I like the idear of the polystyrene block.
Thanks
Nasher.
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23 August 2009, 22:18
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Nasher - you are going to hate me for this suggestion............
Why not go the whole hog and have the anchor going through the hull like on new Revengers and Scorpions etc???
http://www.revenger.co.uk/revenger31med/rev31med.html
Stunning boats!!!
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23 August 2009, 22:18
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this might be a stupid suggestion - but could you drill through the bulkhead into the underdeck void and put a bung in it? Then when you want to you can wash through / drain the locker into the void (which I assume either has a pump or a drain bung?)
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23 August 2009, 22:21
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I am currently building the anchor locker in the bow of my 5.4. I have also had the idea of putting a drain in for the same reason you state. I am thinking the way forward it to lay a pipe glassed in all the way down to the stern where I am going to build a well my thinking is that any water will just flow out the stern as the 5.4’s bow will always be too low at to self drain as it dose on the yacht.
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23 August 2009, 22:37
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Originally Posted by mdt
I am currently building the anchor locker in the bow of my 5.4. I have also had the idea of putting a drain in for the same reason you state. I am thinking the way forward it to lay a pipe glassed in all the way down to the stern where I am going to build a well my thinking is that any water will just flow out the stern as the 5.4’s bow will always be too low at to self drain as it dose on the yacht.
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You mean like this one, mentioned in stevetheboats shakespeare build thread?
http://www.ribs-by-shakespeare.co.uk/comp.html
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...are+720&page=3
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23 August 2009, 22:46
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Idealy yes I'd like to drain it back to the stern and the bilge pump, but unfortunately the very large compartment behind the anchor locker doesn't drain back either, and the fuel tank is in the way even if I could crawl down inside it to drill through.
On the other hand, I like having seperate water tight compartments within the hull.
Codprawn, you've got me thinking, but it's probably a little OTT for me, and I'd have to invest in a winch etc.
Nasher
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24 August 2009, 06:54
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Codders suggestion does look good, I've seen your welding too mate. Afternoons work for yourself!
Let me know if you need some shiny bits as I'm back at work.
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24 August 2009, 08:10
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That is just what I had in mind for the under deck build. so glad it looks like it will work.
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24 August 2009, 08:53
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Locker drains have to be above the waterline, no problem on a yacht with lots of freeboard.
Maybe an anchor line that doesn't absorb so much water might help. I have a similar set, I've not had such problems.
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24 August 2009, 09:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Locker drains have to be above the waterline, no problem on a yacht with lots of freeboard.
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might be a stupid question, but why?
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24 August 2009, 09:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Harvey
might be a stupid question, but why?
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If the drain is below the waterline, it's effectively a whole in the boat and lets water in. You'll be carrying extra weight and the anchor gear will be permanantly sopping wet.
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24 August 2009, 09:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Harvey
might be a stupid question, but why?
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I assume it's in case the bulkhead fails and allows the boat to fill up.
Nasher
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24 August 2009, 12:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
If the drain is below the waterline, it's effectively a whole in the boat and lets water in. You'll be carrying extra weight and the anchor gear will be permanantly sopping wet.
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OK, then I assume you are talking about a drain hole to the outside of the boat, cos mine drains all the way back to the transom well, where there's a bung at the front of the well, to drain any water in the hull into the transom well, where it can be pumped out. Or, alternatively do the reverse and part fill the hull for stability.
had me worried for a minute
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24 August 2009, 12:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Harvey
OK, then I assume you are talking about a drain hole to the outside of the boat, cos mine drains all the way back to the transom well.....
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. Very difficult to retro-fit such a set-up.
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24 August 2009, 12:56
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how about a very small bilge pump? sort of car windscreen size pump with a switch on the dashboard? i am sure there must be something similar that would work in a marine enviroment.
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24 August 2009, 13:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
The Anchor locker in the Bows of The Nashers Revenge is formed by a bulkhead under the deck roughly as the Blue line on the image below.
When the anchor, chain and warp are dumped back in the locker the sea water runs off and collects in the bottom, and can only be removed with a sponge once all the gear has been removed from the locker.
I’d like to fit a drain like Yachts have to let the water out.
An added advantage is that I’d be able to chuck a bucket of fresh water in the locker to rinse the salt out of the warp occasionally, rather than wait until I drag it all out 2 or 3 times a year to wash it out in a bucket.
Unfortunately the bottom of the locker is just below the water line at rest, so I’m going to Glass in a false floor to the locker about 6 inches up, as per the Red line, which will be enough to raise a drain above the water line at rest.
This will of course create a sealed void in the hull, shown by the yellow shading, which I’m not too sure about.
Should I just leave it?
Or should I consider filling it with something?
Any thoughts would be appreciated, especially those from the RIB builders.
Thanks.
Nasher.
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Leave it!
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When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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24 August 2009, 13:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
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Yeah, buy a bigger sponge.
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