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25 June 2008, 15:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Truro-Cornwall & Brazil
Boat name: Bananas in Blue
Make: Humber Destroyer 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-Tec 115
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Anchor, Chain, and Rope.
Hi all, Just about to order the above (prob from boatgeardirect.co.uk).
I am planning on getting a 6kg Delta "copy" for my 5.5 humber as this should provide ample holding power.
I was thinking of 8 metres of chain and about 40 metres of rope. I very rarely anchor anywhere other than just off the beach and I will also carry an Aux motor so I reckon 40m of rope should be adequate.
What rope/chain would you go for from from the boat gear direct site??
Anyone know if the prices on their site include VAT???
Prices do inc VAT, just spotted it!
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25 June 2008, 19:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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WHOA!!! Get down to Macsalvors (Ex-Boathouse), Commercial Road, Penryn. Buy a 5kg Bruce with 5m of chain and a couple of galv bow shackles.
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25 June 2008, 19:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Truro-Cornwall & Brazil
Boat name: Bananas in Blue
Make: Humber Destroyer 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-Tec 115
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I'll have a look there when I'm back. You obviously think I am going rather OTT .I was in Maccys a month or two ago and the selection was a bit limited. Can't wait to get home and start playing, 5 shifts to go!
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25 June 2008, 19:39
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
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Originally Posted by Markyboyo
I'll have a look there when I'm back. You obviously think I am going rather OTT .I was in Maccys a month or two ago and the selection was a bit limited. Can't wait to get home and start playing, 5 shifts to go!
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Nope, you'll be good when a 40ft Princess wants to raft-up along side you. I use Bruce anchors, they hold well on the sandy stuff around here and are fine in rock.
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25 June 2008, 19:47
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Country: UK - England
Town: Truro-Cornwall & Brazil
Boat name: Bananas in Blue
Make: Humber Destroyer 5.5
Length: 5m +
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How do they hold in muddy shingle/stones. I often anchor off Turnaware and the tide really rips through there. Wouldn't want to wake up to find myself up near the KHF like a friend did!
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26 June 2008, 09:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I got the copy delta from same place, really good - have tried several but this does the job. Great in sand/clay/shingle/rocks and breaks out nicely. Also found their service really as well as price....
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26 June 2008, 14:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: Worcester
Make: Northcraft
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Ditto Rodan's comments. A Delta is a great anchor and the 6kg version is good for craft up to about 8 metres. I have the 6kg copy from Boatgeardirect on 7mm galvanised chain and 12mm nylon rope. You could use 10mm rope but 12mm is easier to grip!
Can't get very big shackles through 7mm chain though. I bought forged stainless shackles which have a higher braking load than standard galvanised shackles.
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26 June 2008, 14:07
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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I reckon boatgear direct should give me commision!!!
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26 June 2008, 20:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: cornwall
Boat name: nothing
Make: rib eye 430
Length: 4m +
Engine: tatsu 50
MMSI: 666
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I took mollers advice on the bruce , certainly the best in the sand around here .and the 5kg is more than enough for my 5.5 boat which i guess catches more wind than a rib when its moored .
If macsalvors haven't got any pop into marine bazarre in plymouth for a good price on a copy
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26 June 2008, 21:48
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Town: Inverness
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Without starting the usual argument about Bruce, Delta, Danforth, Delta copies etc I would get the biggest you can fit in the locker.
Your locker should be the same size as mine and I have fitted a 7.5kg Bruce, 10m of 10mm chain and 60m of 11mm rope in there with space left for a pellet bouy as a marker.
The tide really does move in places up here as well and it is better to be safe than sorry.
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28 June 2008, 12:24
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Size of anchor for a Dr 490
Any andvice on a small tidy anchor not grapple type for a valiant Dr 490
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28 June 2008, 14:08
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Country: Canada
Town: British Columbia
Make: Gemini
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp 2 str
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Originally Posted by two stroke mick
Any andvice on a small tidy anchor not grapple type for a valiant Dr 490
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I would just get the inexpensive 6 kg Chinese Delta knockoff. It's effective on just about any surface. It's not too bad at all for storage once you've tucked your spooled anchor rope within in. Here is a picture of it with the rope strapped within the bow storage box on my SIB. It still leaves lots of space within the box for other essentials.
Other than that there is a neat folding anchor called a 'box anchor' which is about 3 x the price of the Delta knockoff (about the same price as a real Delta). I read mixed reviews of it's effectiveness though.
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28 June 2008, 16:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
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Originally Posted by prairie tuber
I would just get the inexpensive 6 kg Chinese Delta knockoff. It's effective on just about any surface. It's not too bad at all for storage once you've tucked your spooled anchor rope within in. Here is a picture of it with the rope strapped within the bow storage box on my SIB. It still leaves lots of space within the box for other essentials.
Other than that there is a neat folding anchor called a 'box anchor' which is about 3 x the price of the Delta knockoff (about the same price as a real Delta). I read mixed reviews of it's effectiveness though.
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PT that is a knock off Bruce anchor if I'm not mistaken!
Not a Delta, Nick
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28 June 2008, 17:37
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Yep, Bruce rather than Delta. I do prefer the Bruce myself but some folk here prefer the delta, Either way I would buy the largest I can fit/afford as in an emergency there is no such thing as a big enough anchor and chain!
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28 June 2008, 21:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: cornwall
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Make: rib eye 430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by two stroke mick
Any andvice on a small tidy anchor not grapple type for a valiant Dr 490
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The smallest bruce fits ok in the locker of the valiant , I can't remember what wieght it is , I said i had a 5kg on my new boat but i think the 5 kg is the smallest bruce and my new one is a 7.5 . anyway it was never an issue on my valiant , its not a heavy boat
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28 June 2008, 21:48
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You can buy a 2.5kg Bruce, used to have one as a backup when I was completely paranoid and carried two anchors and chains/ropes. Now one set and a drogue anchor does me.
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29 June 2008, 01:46
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Country: Canada
Town: British Columbia
Make: Gemini
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp 2 str
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
PT that is a knock off Bruce anchor if I'm not mistaken!
Not a Delta, Nick
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You're right! What was I thinking?
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29 June 2008, 22:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: cornwall
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Make: rib eye 430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceB
You can buy a 2.5kg Bruce, used to have one as a backup when I was completely paranoid and carried two anchors and chains/ropes. Now one set and a drogue anchor does me.
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oh well i did have it right then , a 5kg is what i have now and the valiant was fine with the 2.5kg and a decent length of chain
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29 June 2008, 22:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Make: Waveline
Length: under 3m
Engine: Yamaha 2.5
Join Date: May 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Markyboyo
How do they hold in muddy shingle/stones. I often anchor off Turnaware and the tide really rips through there. Wouldn't want to wake up to find myself up near the KHF like a friend did!
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Have spent a few of nights off Turnaware with a 5kg bruce ( lots of chain) with my 2500kg hard boat ( I know ) and it holds well
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29 June 2008, 22:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Truro-Cornwall & Brazil
Boat name: Bananas in Blue
Make: Humber Destroyer 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-Tec 115
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 386
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I guess that my 5.5m with a bruce and a "bit" of chain should be ok then!!
I'll pop into Maccysalvers when I get home!
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