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05 June 2013, 19:02
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Make: Avon
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Anchor - Collapsible
I am thinking about an anchor for my Avon SR4.
This Wavetake collapsible
anchor seems convenient especially because it saves space on a small boat. Cast-iron coated PVC and stores flat. I have 4ft of coated rode and 22 ft of galvanized chain then three strand nylon. 3:1 scope recommended on this 18 lb anchor.
Any thoughts?
Also how should I connect the chains to the crown and each other? Rope I will braid in.
Thanks,
ZacOps
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05 June 2013, 19:13
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Country: UK - England
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A grapnel with wide flukes would do the job better than that and take up about the same amount of room.
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05 June 2013, 19:20
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Country: UK - N Ireland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nos4r2
a grapnel with wide flukes would do the job better than that and take up about the same amount of room.
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05 June 2013, 20:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
A grapnel with wide flukes would do the job better than that
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and nobody thinks highly of them!
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05 June 2013, 21:40
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Grapnels don't hold as well as some but most of us only need an anchor for safety or to stick it on the beach for the afternoon, we're not using it to old a heavy old boat over night.
I've used one for a couple of years and it's been fine plus they fold up neatly, if you're worried then buy a heavier one than you need, what's far more important is the chain, the best holding bruce, delta or whatever will be useless without the right amount of chain.
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05 June 2013, 22:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas
. what's far more important is the chain, the best holding bruce, delta or whatever will be useless without the right amount of chain.
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Thanks. How do I connect the anchor/coated chain/ galvenized chain all together? They are 3 separate pieces right now. Galvanized shakels?
How about two of these stainless steel? Is AISI 316 stainless good?
Or these?
Third option.
Fourth.
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05 June 2013, 22:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZacOps
Thanks. How do I connect the anchor/coated chain/ galvenized chain all together? They are 3 separate pieces right now. Galvanized shakels?
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not sure why you are using 2 types of chain - and it is quite a lot chain for the size of boat. Ideally you would have a swivel - but in reality a shackle will do - make sure your "mouse" the pin so it can't undo (cable tie works for me).
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05 June 2013, 23:16
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Those are fancy exxpensive connectors. This style is much less expensive, won't come undone, and last a decade+
Galvanized Connecting Chain Links
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05 June 2013, 23:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
not sure why you are using 2 types of chain - and it is quite a lot chain for the size of boat. Ideally you would have a swivel - but in reality a shackle will do - make sure your "mouse" the pin so it can't undo (cable tie works for me).
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Two types because I purchased the coated chain for the first few feet on the bottom, then the next 22 feet for weight. Didn't know what boat I would have so I just got as much as the budget would allow at the time.
Used the coated chain as an over-shoulder cable lock for my motorcycle. Worked great, but now it is dedicated to the boat. Also locks that trailer wheel in port.
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05 June 2013, 23:39
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Thanks, decided on the flush mount 1/4 " shackles. $10.48 for a pair from Wholesale Marine. Like the look of the stainless steel a little better.
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06 June 2013, 04:00
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There is no way I would recommend the OP's anchor nor a grapnel for a boat used around Morro Bay. Your bottom substrates should be about the same as mine, with either sand or rocks. The OP's anchor won't hold in the sand at all. Grapnels can close on their own, and even if they do stay extended they just don't have enough holding power on a windy day with larger swells. Either a Danforth, or a claw type anchor with the chain either the boat length or just a few feet longer. If the chain is too long and heavy, whomever is pulling the anchor is going to hate you! I don't personally use a swivel, as I am cheap and don't ever want to feel bad about cutting my anchor loose. I carry just over 300' of three strand line, and keep all of it in a milk crate.
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06 June 2013, 20:02
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Dont know about Morro Bay but do know that you can only use either of the above 2 Anchors in a very casual manner ie;when you are still in the boat but want to stop for a break etc.The Bruce 2KG+2m Chain+30 M Rope,would perform better!
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06 June 2013, 20:07
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Town: Seattle
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+1 on a bruce or delta.
I long ago gave up on grapple and folding anchors, they don't hold when you want/need them to.
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17 June 2013, 18:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZacOps
I am thinking about an anchor for my Avon SR4.
This Wavetake collapsible
anchor seems convenient especially because it saves space on a small boat. Cast-iron coated PVC and stores flat. I have 4ft of coated rode and 22 ft of galvanized chain then three strand nylon. 3:1 scope recommended on this 18 lb anchor.
Any thoughts?
Also how should I connect the chains to the crown and each other? Rope I will braid in.
Thanks,
ZacOps
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Anchor worked well at the lake. Algae turned the white nylon rope greenish. Added a stainless steel carabiner to clip in quickly at the right length.
Going to upgrade nylon for the ocean. Black 1/2 inch.
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