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14 September 2010, 11:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
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Ian said the boat did not have a "kill cord", which cuts the engine if pulled, as coastguards had reported.
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How old was the boat and outboard, I didnt think any outboard in the last 15 + years didnt have one as standard?
Now, one bypassed i can understand.
Howerver I tend to belive the CG more.
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He said: "I was only wearing the lifejacket because it was a new one my friend had bought me
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So, now the life jacket is not new, hes not going to wear it?!
It really anoys me when people blame "freak waves", "weather", "phases of the moon" or anything other than complete incompetance or lack of common sense.
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14 September 2010, 11:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: NW& wherever the boat is!
Boat name: depends on m'mood!
Make: Humbers/15-24m cats
Length: 6m +
Engine: etec130/big volvos
MMSI: many and various
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mercs/mariners tend to have kill cord switches which are just toggle switches with the kill cord fitting over it-we have had loadsa fast fishing boats here running without the cord itself and with the switch flicked to run. Tend to change the habit after a course though
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14 September 2010, 13:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
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so if it was a merc/mariner it was a case of
"the facility was there, i just didnt bother to use it" same as life jackets untderthe seat.
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14 September 2010, 13:32
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
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same as "freak wave" meaning "wasn't paying attention"
the only freak waves I've hear of are Rogue waves, and certainly wasn't one of them!
It can happen to the best of us, but why not admit it was your own fault for not using kill cord, paying attention etc
could it be Insurance?? Guilt ,re nephew??
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14 September 2010, 17:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by Starovich
How old was the boat and outboard, I didnt think any outboard in the last 15 + years didnt have one as standard?
Now, one bypassed i can understand.
Howerver I tend to belive the CG more.
So, now the life jacket is not new, hes not going to wear it?!
It really anoys me when people blame "freak waves", "weather", "phases of the moon" or anything other than complete incompetance or lack of common sense.
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I think these 3 lines say it all really:-
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"I was only wearing the lifejacket because it was a new one my friend had bought me"
"I know the boat inside out. I've been out in it thousands of times and have never come out of it. There's probably not even a one in a million chance of it happening again."
Ian said the boat did not have a "kill cord", which cuts the engine if pulled, as coastguards had reported.
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Unless there's some really bad journalistic licence going on, it sounds like a combination of complacency,ignorance and stupidity.
(Hint, if it aint got a killcord, fit one. S'not rocket science...)
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14 September 2010, 21:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
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report that i read,, mca news page,, ,says when the boat was recovered ,the kill cord was found to be wrapped around the steering coloume,thats why i mentioned earlier in the thread that it may have been fitted, but perhaps getting it wrapped around the steering wheel after a few turns and if its only been clipped onto a persons ,eg belt loop on a pair of jeans when he goes over the side the attachment ,eg belt loop could break leaving the kill cord in place .or it may have been left like that for years ,,,
tel ya what bet he checks it next time .
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14 September 2010, 22:09
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by m chappelow
tel ya what bet he checks it next time .
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you think?
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"I know the boat inside out. I've been out in it thousands of times and have never come out of it. There's probably not even a one in a million chance of it happening again."
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14 September 2010, 23:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by Polwart
you think?
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"I know the boat inside out. I've been out in it thousands of times and have never come out of it.
well he,s certainly now familiar with the outside of the hull along with the propeller,,,
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15 September 2010, 00:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portland, Dorset
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Aug 2009
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The bloke who sold me my boat said it didn't have a switch for a kill cord... then eventually admitted maybe that was what that little toggle thing was for that he'd never bothered with !
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