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13 February 2014, 21:47
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Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: TOP CAT 2
Make: Scorpion 8.1
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp HO
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,822
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mate had a f3. He took me from calshot to warsash. I was hooked. Soking wet, but a big grin and in love witht the tatty little boat.
Very small transom, so flooded if weight was aft, his had a 40-50 on back which made it a little nosey to get going, but it was a very stable boat, which pushed the waves away from a stuff, if you drove it silly, however the windscreen was pointless and it was very wet. my 5yr old girl loved it too. Brilliant boat.
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14 February 2014, 05:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 55HP
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 448
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The Rassay boat will be the one. The company came to Stonehaven in 1985 for a blast round the bay with it before it was delivered. I can't remember much about the boat given the time that has gone by but it was a bit of a jolly and a good excuse to burn some fuel.
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14 February 2014, 08:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 32
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Originally Posted by MagicPowers
Hi, cheers for the replies!
Ah yes I remember now, the fuel tanks on a Force 6 sticking above
deck slightly, to be covered by the console and a 'fibreglass box'.
I wish I had some pictures to share!
Nice work on those tubes!
I remember entering a competition in Sportsboat magazine
(in the '90's?!) to win a Merlin with a Tohatsu 60 and ski pole
I'm pretty sure the hull is from a Marshan or Phantom 16?
I think it was quite a late model, much better hull than the
Force 4 / 4 GT which has a full length planing pad - you're
lucky to find one of those! Look forward to seeing some pics
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Pics as promised earlier of what I believe might be a Flatacraft Merlin. This is going to be a total referb (when I get round to it!) I will be making some new tubes (white and blue) with a slight redesign, total respray Blue dash/deck to match the upholstery and a white hull.
I am also looking for an engine? Any suggestions?
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05 March 2014, 20:18
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Member
Country: France
Town: Antibes
Boat name: Fat Takkie
Make: Flatacraft Force 6
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha 90 2stroke
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3
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Hi Rodellaribs,
Just to inform you that what you have there is a force 4 GT (14'6") and not a Merlin (15').
Only 6"? I hear you cry. But a big difference in the build. The 4GT was an extended F4 and as such had a hull and floor moulding bonded together. Light, fast, ideal as a tender, but not as strong as it could have been. There is always a compromise!
The Merlin was a shorter version of the 19' Force 5. Which as someone earlier stated was a Marshan 18 hull? This is incorrect and it was in fact based on the Phantom 16 hull.
All Flatacraft from the Merlin upwards did not have a floor moulding, but a built in foam cored stringer and bearer system with a foam cored floor bonded ontop. This was incredibly strong and light and made for a superior boat. The Merlin may have been only 6" longer, but being of this construction and Phantom pedigree, was a better, albeit heavier boat.
It was only in production for a couple of years before Flatacraft closed down, so it would be a very rare boat to find.
I am currently refurbishing my own 22 year old Force 6, with still solid hull, floor and transom. It should last forever as long as the transom doesn't rot, and currently it is still as true as the day it was built.
What is dying are the tubes. The rib's achilles heel. Are you (Rodella) still in the business of making replacement tubes? I look forwards to replacing mine in the near future and am looking for someone to make them. I would fit them myself, heck, even make them myself but time and space are at a premium.
Many thanks and should be posting some shots of my refurbishment soon.
Cheers!
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06 March 2014, 09:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 32
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Originally Posted by totsworth
Hi Rodellaribs,
Just to inform you that what you have there is a force 4 GT (14'6") and not a Merlin (15').
Only 6"? I hear you cry. But a big difference in the build. The 4GT was an extended F4 and as such had a hull and floor moulding bonded together. Light, fast, ideal as a tender, but not as strong as it could have been. There is always a compromise!
The Merlin was a shorter version of the 19' Force 5. Which as someone earlier stated was a Marshan 18 hull? This is incorrect and it was in fact based on the Phantom 16 hull.
All Flatacraft from the Merlin upwards did not have a floor moulding, but a built in foam cored stringer and bearer system with a foam cored floor bonded ontop. This was incredibly strong and light and made for a superior boat. The Merlin may have been only 6" longer, but being of this construction and Phantom pedigree, was a better, albeit heavier boat.
It was only in production for a couple of years before Flatacraft closed down, so it would be a very rare boat to find.
I am currently refurbishing my own 22 year old Force 6, with still solid hull, floor and transom. It should last forever as long as the transom doesn't rot, and currently it is still as true as the day it was built.
What is dying are the tubes. The rib's achilles heel. Are you (Rodella) still in the business of making replacement tubes? I look forwards to replacing mine in the near future and am looking for someone to make them. I would fit them myself, heck, even make them myself but time and space are at a premium.
Many thanks and should be posting some shots of my refurbishment soon.
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Hi,
Thank you for information on the Flatacraft, I did a slight Re-design for a set of Flatacraft Force 6 Tubes a while back I will try find a picture and post it at a later date. Have you any pics of your Flatacraft you could send me? Any questions please don't hesitate contact me.
Giovanni Rodella
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21 March 2014, 10:25
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Member
Country: France
Town: Antibes
Boat name: Fat Takkie
Make: Flatacraft Force 6
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha 90 2stroke
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3
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Force 6
Hi Rodella,
Here's my project, tubes well worn, and she is at least 24 years old, but the hull floor and transom are all as good as the day she was born.
Would you absolutely need the old tubes for templates? Travel to uk would be difficult as she is abroad now. Ideally am looking to get the tubes made and shipped to her in France. Let me know what you think.
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26 March 2014, 10:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 32
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Flatacraft Force 6
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Originally Posted by totsworth
Hi Rodella,
Here's my project, tubes well worn, and she is at least 24 years old, but the hull floor and transom are all as good as the day she was born.
Would you absolutely need the old tubes for templates? Travel to uk would be difficult as she is abroad now. Ideally am looking to get the tubes made and shipped to her in France. Let me know what you think.
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24 February 2016, 20:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Brixham
Boat name: Blue Merlin
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10
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Flatacraft Merlin.
Hi,
Just bought a secondhand Flatacraft Merlin. This is a one owner from new and has been kept in a garage all of its life and thoroughly looked after by its owner.
I used to work at a marine dealership 20 plus years ago and they were a Flatacraft dealer.
Looking forward to getting back on the water!
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24 February 2016, 20:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Brixham
Boat name: Blue Merlin
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10
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24 February 2016, 22:09
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,859
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When was she built?
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24 February 2016, 22:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Brixham
Boat name: Blue Merlin
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10
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Originally Posted by willk
When was she built?
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The whole outfit is roughly 20 years old, amazing condition.
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24 February 2016, 22:29
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,859
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Originally Posted by Blue Marlin
The whole outfit is roughly 20 years old, amazing condition.
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20 years? Absolutely stunning - well done you. You sound like the right keeper for the foreseeable!
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19 August 2016, 21:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Brixham
Boat name: Blue Merlin
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10
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When was she built?
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20 years old this month
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19 August 2016, 21:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Brixham
Boat name: Blue Merlin
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10
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So pleased with handling of this boat and goes very well with the 70 Yamaha!
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06 October 2016, 23:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: taunton
Make: zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: 10hp
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 51
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A very informative thread. I always seem to have my eye on the flatacraft as I still ponder over my first rib. This one is fantastic !
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17 February 2024, 18:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: HAVANT
Boat name: Rum Runner
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard 175
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 6
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I have the last Flatacraft F6 that they built
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicPowers
Hi,
I know this is an old thread, but incase anyone's presently looking
at Flatacrafts, I thought i'd throw my experience in!
In the 4m category, where a 4m Avon Searider would equate to
a Flatacraft Force 4 - the Searider is undoubtedly the better offshore
and durable boat. I've had a Searider with a 50hp Evinrude and a Force 4
with a Mariner/Yamaha 55 - though to be fair was probably only putting
out 40hp! I'd go anywhere in the heavier and deeper-V Avon. While the
Flatacraft was more exciting in terms of acceleration and being lighter,
it was very 'slappy and slammy' in any chop.
Although not a practical concern, I must say I loved the Flatacraft for it's
'retro' design features which were way ahead of their time.
I wouldn't say this a fair overall judgement on Flatacraft though - I've also
had a Force 3 GT with a Yam 30, which although smaller than the Force 4,
was actually a much better sea boat with a very deep-V hull. I took this
around Start Point many times (Dartmouth-Salcombe) and it was very
comfortable - in a drysuit mind you!
Going back over 10 years ago, I remember my Dad's Force 6 Flatacraft.
They're rated for 150 hp, and in the name of good fun, he put a Yamaha
200 on it! (I must add, I'm not recommending this - he's very experienced).
And that was from the glorious 2-stroke V6 days. It flew - literally!!!
I remember helping him re-gel the deck and hull one Winter and I recall
transom being exceptionally thick with integrated supports and upon
upgrading the fuel capacity with s/s fuel tanks, I recall the decks being
about 3 inches thick! The tubes were very well made too.
Excuse me, having a nostalgic moment here!
I remember being a passenger on a Force 5 with a Yam 90 a couple of
times during a B.I.B.O.A cruise (are they still going?!) and for a leisure
RIB, it was remarkably comfortable in the rough. It was a Marshan 18
hull if I remember correctly. If a good example of a Force 5 came about
I'd snap it up straight away.
It sliced through chop like an old 7m Ribtec - before they foolishly
increased the beam!
I got excited about the near revival of Flatacraft a few years ago.
I think there was a lot of investment in design and retro-fitting a
jet-ski engine into a luxury tender. With an established brand name
and reputation, I would've liked to see some well built, no frills RIBs.
All those great hull and deck/console moulds must be laying around somewhere!
Any info would be appreciated, incase you
hadn't noticed, I'm a bit of a fan.
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Hi I believe I have the last or one of the very last Flatacraft F6 ribs built
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07 July 2024, 11:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: HAVANT
Boat name: Rum Runner
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard 175
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
My Father had one of the first force 4s ever made, and had two more over the years. I ended up with the last one which was great fun with a 55HP suzi triple on the back. See pic below.
It was great fun and Very fast, but not really a rough water boat.
There are a lot of really rough ones about now but they are no more expensive or difficult to repair than others. I actually think they are better boats with the original seating layout.
A couple of guys that JK knows brought the rights to the name etc about 3 years ago, they also brought the domain names off me as I'd had them for a while. They'd built a few small boats the last time I heard, which were aimed at the luxury tender market, and even had one at Southampton last year.
There were plans for a 6.5m which I've not heard anything about.
Has gone quiet for the last year apart from some queries about the domain name registration which had not been transfered properly.
If I could afford two boats I'd have another.
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I have the 6.5m Flatacraft you mentioned
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07 July 2024, 11:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: HAVANT
Boat name: Rum Runner
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard 175
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 6
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I think my Flatacraft is a one of a Kind
This could be the only one of its type, a 2007 Enduro F6 Flatacraft fitted with a 175hp Verado
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