Anyone know where I can get a spout for red Quicksilver fuel tank?

[Croolis]

I'm googling away but I can't find anything. Umm 12 litre tank is it? Came with a 9.9hp Mercury. I'm preparing to put the engine away for the winter, and have half a tank of fuel I'd like to put in the car.

Do I have to get some kind of pump or is there a spout? I've never done a fuel transfer in my life, IIRC. Which is kind of surprising, since I was a motorcycle courier for best part of 10 years.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by Croolis

I'm googling away but I can't find anything. Umm 12 litre tank is it? Came with a 9.9hp Mercury. I'm preparing to put the engine away for the winter, and have half a tank of fuel I'd like to put in the car.

Do I have to get some kind of pump or is there a spout? I've never done a fuel transfer in my life, IIRC. Which is kind of surprising, since I was a motorcycle courier for best part of 10 years.

Just buy a funnel or even better Just cut the bottom off a 2 ltr lemonade bottle and you have a nice long funnel. You might need a device to push in the flap on the car filler. But to be honest just keep the petrol till next year. I always do. Maybe fill it right up and put the cap on tight

[Croolis]

Originally Posted by smallribber

Just buy a funnel or even better Just cut the bottom off a 2 ltr lemonade bottle and you have a nice long funnel. You might need a device to push in the flap on the car filler. But to be honest just keep the petrol till next year. I always do. Maybe fill it right up and put the cap on tight

Yeah I got a funnel but it looks like it would be kind of awkward to do without splashing, considering the shape of the fuel tank.

TBH, I've sometimes had fuel sitting in an old motorbike for way over a year and it's not gone "bad". I've never witnessed bad fuel. It must be a thing because so many folks say about it, just never seen it <shrug>.

Cheers

[willk]

I generally use something like this for fuel transfer - cheaper units are available. Quite quick (they come in different hose sizes), little risk of spills, handy in the field and back home.

[Fenlander]

I'm certain no spout available for these tanks.

Willk's jiggle syphon will do the job probably lifting fuel from the tank on the floor to the car. I use one go these below which are stupidly cheap, light and apparently flimsy but mine have lasted ten plus years so far and in some circumstances really handy for a spill free transfer...

https://www.jmart.co.uk/products/super-siphon-pump

A funnel with flexy spout, wide mouth and handle would be easy...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-5614...0001K9WB2&th=1

Worse of all of course from a design perspective the inevitable lemonade bottle as there is no length of spout to go in the car filler, the mouth is narrow to pour into and there is no handle.

Re spill free pouring... be accurate and confident pouring from a 12l tank as indecision will cause loads to run down the tank and not go in the funnel.

[Steve509926]

Why not just fully fill your 12ltr tank with E5 and use some fuel stabiliser like Stabil Marine 360.
I did that last winter and didn't have any issues come spring. I will be doing the same this winter, although if the weather is good - cold, dry and sunny, I fully intend on going out on the water.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by Croolis

Yeah I got a funnel but it looks like it would be kind of awkward to do without splashing, considering the shape of the fuel tank.

TBH, I've sometimes had fuel sitting in an old motorbike for way over a year and it's not gone "bad". I've never witnessed bad fuel. It must be a thing because so many folks say about it, just never seen it <shrug>.

Cheers

If you have never experienced the bad fuel thing I would go with your own experiences rather than what others tell you. Another way would be to simply buy a 5 ltr usually green can pour the petrol from the fuel tank into fuel can with any sort of funnel including the long lemonade bottle which I can assure you works very well. The use the can with its bespoke lid and pipe which is designed to pour into a car. Buy a decent can though as some tend to leak at the spout connection to the can

At this point in time I have over 200 ltrs of petrol in various boats and don’t have a petrol car so I just leave it and have done so for years and never had an issue. Mind you I run mainly older 2 strokes.

[smallribber]

If you want to use up the old petrol another way of course is in a lawnmower

[Croolis]

Cool cheers folks, I'll get one of those siphons, or just not bother at all. I've finally got my cheap metal shed built (still dealing with leaks). I keep my outboard in my porch (no garage, but the main front door is on the outside of the porch, you see) and I typically keep the fuel tank out there with it, but I think I'll just leave it in the shed for the winter.

[Steve509926]

Originally Posted by Croolis

..... and I typically keep the fuel tank out there with it, but I think I'll just leave it in the shed for the winter.

Hi Croolis, if you do decide to "just leave it" make sure it's full so condensation is less likely to happen.

[User name]

Originally Posted by Croolis

I'm googling away but I can't find anything. Umm 12 litre tank is it? Came with a 9.9hp Mercury. I'm preparing to put the engine away for the winter, and have half a tank of fuel I'd like to put in the car.

Do I have to get some kind of pump or is there a spout? I've never done a fuel transfer in my life, IIRC. Which is kind of surprising, since I was a motorcycle courier for best part of 10 years.

You could just pump air in through the tank vent and the fuel will flow out the fuel hose like normal. Just remove your connector and push the hose into the fuel neck on your car and you're good to go.

[Fenlander]

I've never really had the option to put end of season fuel into the car with diesel cars and 2T outboards. But in your place I would empty that tank into the car and then next season I'm sure the fuel left in the carb will be OK to start on with a fresh tank of fuel soon purging it through (note I'm not a fan of running carbs dry but others differ on that).

Are you buying E5 fuel for the OB or E10? I've never really had old fuel trouble but definitely worth doing all you can to avoid a half tank of E10 standing over the winter.

I'm close to winterising the outboards and will be running Aspen mix through them again when I do the fogging and the near half tank of E5 mix I have left will be decanted from the 12l tank into a 5l fuel can then next year I'll start the OB on fresh fuel and add in the old E5 that overwintered in the can.

Belt and braces yes... but I'd rather minimise the chances of my trousers falling down next year at sea.

[Steve509926]

Originally Posted by User name

You could just pump air in through the tank vent and the fuel will flow out the fuel hose like normal. Just remove your connector and push the hose into the fuel neck on your car and you're good to go.

Interesting idea. Is there a specific connector for the fuel tank vent hole?

[Croolis]

Originally Posted by Fenlander

I've never really had the option to put end of season fuel into the car with diesel cars and 2T outboards. But in your place I would empty that tank into the car and then next season I'm sure the fuel left in the carb will be OK to start on with a fresh tank of fuel soon purging it through (note I'm not a fan of running carbs dry but others differ on that).

Are you buying E5 fuel for the OB or E10? I've never really had old fuel trouble but definitely worth doing all you can to avoid a half tank of E10 standing over the winter.

Again, running carbs dry. All the many motorcycles I've owned bar one have been carbed, and I've never had carb issues by having underused bikes standing around with fuel in them forever. On the contrary - I currently own a used bike that has had carb issues (I think) from day one because, I'm pretty sure, the previous owner would get the carbs overhauled every year because he hardly used the bike. Totally unneccessary, and I strongly suspect the last mechanic to do that screwed it up and there's float bowl issues with it now. Keep trying to fix something that ain't broke, you end up breaking it.

Though I take the point that, when you're taking this thing to sea, and it's your sole means of useful propulsion, attention is required.

[mhill]

https://www.screwfix.com/p/laser-jig...-x-1-75m/23447 jiggle syphon here for a good price.

[Davie]

Originally Posted by Steve509926

Interesting idea. Is there a specific connector for the fuel tank vent hole?

You won’t need to do that. Pull the fuel connector of the end of the hose. Stick the hose into any tank. Lift your fuel tank higher than the tank you want to transfer the fuel into. Pump the fuel primer bulb a few times and just by magic the fuel will go into the other tank all by itself!

[chipko]

Another plus one for the jiggle syphon. Suits us fine and a doddle for pretty quick zero spill fuel transfer from 25 litre portable tanks into either car or filling onboard boat tank…far easier than taking complete rig the the petrol station.

As an aside, our first year running a boat with onboard fuel tank…110 litre and decided to fill full with treated E5 premium fuel over winter to limit condensation. So syphoned out all the remaining fuel from this seasons use, about 50 litres or so, to start the off season with fresh fuel. We use stabilised E5 throughout the season and it looked nice and clear so has gone into one of our cars. Interesting to note 50 litres only contained less than a teaspoon of water after running it through a water separating filter. Thought there may be more after a season in the tank.

[willk]

Originally Posted by chipko

Another plus one for the jiggle syphon. Suits us fine and a doddle for pretty quick zero spill fuel transfer from 25 litre portable tanks into either car or filling onboard boat tank…far easier than taking complete rig the the petrol station.

My experience was similar - I was hauling diesel to a RIB on a swing mooring. I would regularly bring 150L in cans and transfer with a big siphon. It dealt with a 25L can in a couple of minutes with no spills or drama, even in a rocking boat. After use, it got rolled up and stashed under a seat, no moving parts and very compact. I still use a smaller version to drain 22L petrol tanks on the current outfit, I wouldn't be without one.

TBH, I've had no luck with petrol and funnels, even 'bought' ones, there always seems to be a spill. Petrol spills are bad juju...

[Steve509926]

Originally Posted by Davie

You won’t need to do that. Pull the fuel connector of the end of the hose. Stick the hose into any tank. Lift your fuel tank higher than the tank you want to transfer the fuel into. Pump the fuel primer bulb a few times and just by magic the fuel will go into the other tank all by itself!

Thanks Davie, simple when you know.

[User name]

Originally Posted by Davie

You won’t need to do that. Pull the fuel connector of the end of the hose. Stick the hose into any tank. Lift your fuel tank higher than the tank you want to transfer the fuel into. Pump the fuel primer bulb a few times and just by magic the fuel will go into the other tank all by itself!

And open the vent of course. That'll work but it'll be very slow and you'll have to hold up it the entire time though. I suppose if it's only a couple of litres then it's not a big deal, but I wouldn't want to transfer much more than that. It needs a bit of pressure to overcome the valve in the primer bulb.