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05 February 2012, 02:41
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Anyone tryed power kite eco rib fishing
Hi all, Just been looking at those power kite things all the surfers are useing these days and couldn't help but wonder if I strap one of the big ones on the bow would it be good anough for a bit of what I would call eco trolling, you could even gain a little steerage with the outboard down I recon, Has anyone tryed this yet I bet it be fun if nothing else,
Paul.
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05 February 2012, 14:09
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I think it's called "Sailing"
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05 February 2012, 14:16
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I think it's called "Sailing"
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Does that mean that kiteboarding is windsurfing?
C'mon Grandad, keep with it.
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05 February 2012, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Does that mean that kiteboarding is windsurfing?
C'mon Grandad, keep with it.
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It's still wind assisted
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05 February 2012, 15:42
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I wondered about it for my tender, til I found out I could run the 2.2hp outboard for 10 years for the cost of a powerkite and I'd still have to learn to use it without being dragged in.
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05 February 2012, 17:39
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Does that mean that kiteboarding is windsurfing?
C'mon Grandad, keep with it.
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Hey! i'm hip & down with the kids Gonna get my bitch to get me a hoody............. the next time she's in Tescos
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05 February 2012, 18:22
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I thought that was what the original 'box kite' was for. Large orange beacon in the sky and enough pulling power to drag you along in the life raft!
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07 February 2012, 00:32
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Ok guys I know the concept aint new, And I agree this is a form of sailing either way, And yes you probably could run a 2.2 for ten years for the price on some of them, But I recon one of the cheaper ones would do the job, I would bet someone has tryed it surely.I'v done a search for one of them orange box kites and can't find one, however I don't want to alarm the CG by flying a big orange distress signal, when im just trolling for a Billy bass. Anyway i'll give one of the fifty quid ones a go when it warms up a bit, and let you know how it goes, I'll get the camera out so if it all goes horribly wrong at least i'll make £250 on You been framed.
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07 February 2012, 09:03
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Good luck dragon, be curious to see if you can make any headway.
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07 February 2012, 09:04
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It's still wind assisted
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So's Mollers, but no-one's ever said "Hello sailor!" to him, have they?
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07 February 2012, 10:48
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Quote:
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So's Mollers, but no-one's ever said "Hello sailor!" to him, have they?
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Shall I be the first then "Hello Sailor"
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07 February 2012, 15:01
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I have a few powerkites and im not sure it would work!
They work best by being moved through the "powerzone" depending on which way the wind is. if you just tied it off and left it the kite would fly to the top of the arc (effecticly overhead) and wouldnt produce any significant forward pull.
If you were able to work the kite through the wind arc it would generate forward pull but would be limited to making sure you stayed in the boat and transfered the forward energy to the boat itself.
i have had one to many pies in my life and am the wrong side of 16 stone and my 6.4 meter kite has taken me a good 15 feet in the air no problem. harnessing the power (lift or directional pull) would be the difficulty.
love to see it tried tho! there was a company selling BIG kites for ships some time ago so maybe it would work!
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07 February 2012, 17:56
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Yes it is possible
I have a customer who've installed a kite wing on his Zodiac Hurricane 920 OB, I have some pictures of it and the system he designed to make it work. It worked very well, he managed to get some speed out of it. Would love to show you some pictures but they are not mine, so I would have to ask before.
He used Omega kites; have a look at that: Ecotroll: Propulsions par Aile de Kite Omega Sails
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07 February 2012, 18:08
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07 February 2012, 18:32
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I'm sure if you flew one of these box kites attached to the bow, it would trawl you along quite well for fishing. The beauty of the box kite is once up and flying, it does not need any attention. As you said, change of colour would be wise don't want the life boat scrambled.
Box Kites | Cody Box Kite | Sky High Kites
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07 February 2012, 23:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
I have a few powerkites and im not sure it would work!
They work best by being moved through the "powerzone" depending on which way the wind is. if you just tied it off and left it the kite would fly to the top of the arc (effecticly overhead) and wouldnt produce any significant forward pull.
If you were able to work the kite through the wind arc it would generate forward pull but would be limited to making sure you stayed in the boat and transfered the forward energy to the boat itself.
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I think it would depend on how the kite is trimmed. The way the lines are delivered the kite is designed to 'sit' at the top and not pull if the rear of the kite is lowered by shortening the rear lines then it would fly lower and produce a more horizontal pull.
I "triple decked" the kids two line stunt kites several years back and the pull from these was almost two much for me to hold. These two lines stunt kites would fly with the lines at about 60 degrees to the horizontal when the two lines are held together.
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08 February 2012, 01:33
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oops!
Big thanks for all the support and info guys, that all made for some fantastic and very interesting infomation, I definataly want one of them white cone kites, thats just the style I was thinking of, because you could just fix the end of the line to one of those cheap 3/4 ton 12v winches, and power in or out with ease, detatch kite pack away sorted, infact as mentioned in that article there are other uses of gaining great height at sea, I know i've been in situations before now where i've lost radio signal from being at 2 meter from sea level, fortunaly only performing a radio check, however im thinking of getting a bigger aerial.
I must say I would have replied sooner to the great responce, but i've been doing a bit of flying myself today, turns out the L200 pictured reversing my rib back in her bay, is actually not very good at flying at all, infact after hitting black ice this morning at about 45 ish mph and sliding sideways then dramaticaly regaining traction whilst faceing head on with the hedge at 40?mph, I hit the hedge heavy on the front passengers side on the other side of the road, then became airborn for what seamed like 5 sec previosly to slaming down full pass side roof, ending up hanging from the seat belt as she came to rest on the near side, fortunatly I was alone and there where no injuries, so thank you again guys for those threads they really perked me up, plus I love the banter on here, there's nowt like a good laugh lad, whether your an inshore or offshore rubber boater,
Damn I wish I had my video camera this morning i'd definataly have that £250 of YBF.
Does anyone want parts for an L200,
I'll post some pics soon.
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08 February 2012, 02:23
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oops! capsized
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08 February 2012, 09:57
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Never mind, at least you can buy a decent 4x4 like a Land Rover with the insurance money Glad no-one got hurt.
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08 February 2012, 10:24
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Quote:
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I think it would depend on how the kite is trimmed. The way the lines are delivered the kite is designed to 'sit' at the top and not pull if the rear of the kite is lowered by shortening the rear lines then it would fly lower and produce a more horizontal pull.
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maybe so, i think it depends on the shape and design of the kite. on my 4 line kites, the rear lines are break lines and change the shape of the kite to remove almost all power (ram air style kites) thus letting the kite fall back down through the wind arc without pulling you across the field as it does so.
if its been done already there must be a solition. think i might have to look at putting a kite up as we come back into the river on a busy sunday afternoon. all the other sailors seem to get away with it!
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