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21 February 2023, 20:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,356
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Nope! It’d be more unusual if you were the guy whose costs didn’t get out of hand
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21 February 2023, 21:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Boat name: Wakey
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 75 2 stroke
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 566
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Originally Posted by A1an
Is it just my projects that the costs run away on?
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Console yourself with the fact that your ribcraft new STARTS at £32,000.
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21 February 2023, 21:16
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,913
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Originally Posted by fastasfox
Console yourself with the fact that your ribcraft new STARTS at £32,000.
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Scary!
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21 February 2023, 21:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Boat name: Wakey
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 75 2 stroke
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 566
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Originally Posted by A1an
Scary!
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Scary because the new one's are expensive or scary because your project getting up there with the price of a new one :-)
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02 March 2023, 15:39
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#25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bromsgrove
Boat name: Kick-Ass !
Make: PAC/Artic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 250hp Yamaha
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,577
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I have personaly tefurbed in excess of 60 vessels get on with it. Money is saved trust me
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jaAjVaMzmQz1gait5
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02 March 2023, 19:54
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,626
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Originally Posted by Matt
Nope! It’d be more unusual if you were the guy whose costs didn’t get out of hand
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I think if you need to obfuscate the true costs of a boat from a loved one - doing it in bits and pieces over the course of a year or two might be easier than buying the right boat in the first place.
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03 March 2023, 06:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: teesside
Boat name: magic
Make: humber 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: mariner 115
MMSI: 232012453
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,538
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Originally Posted by Dankoozy
As in buying a rib with knackered tubes, having it retubed by some fella, buying engine and doing all the other wiring and installing yourself?
New RIBs from the factory usually cost a lot more than the price of the tubes and the engine so I am wondering what the disadvantages are? There are some cheap hulls up on Donedeal at the moment
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i paid less than £7k for a brand new humber destroyer 5.5 bare hull with new double console and new stainless tank fitted .i allready had everything needed to build it up and get it water ready the idea was a cheap way into a newish boat . as with all good intentions my idea soon went by the wayside .i kept going to fit parts i had and thinking thats a bit worn so bought a new one instead ![bang](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif) . even my 20 hour mercury 100 went when i came across a brand new in the box mariner 115 for £6.5k and the guy offered me £4k px for my 100 ![dance](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/dance.gif) .anyway point is you can save cash if you do the work yourself my boat is now 100% a year 2020 and it stands me at about £16500
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03 March 2023, 12:17
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#28
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Noble House
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 4 stroke
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 49
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I got into ribs during the first lockdown, bought a 1970's Avon sr4 and it kept me busy for many hours refurbishing it. I really enjoyed using it once completed but did feel a little empty not having a project to work on so I bought another one the next winter and that gave me many hours of fun working on it too. I'm on the look out now for another one, maybe a 4.7 or 5.4
A before and after of my current sr4
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05 March 2023, 09:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,777
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Originally Posted by beerbelly
i paid less than £7k for a brand new humber destroyer 5.5 bare hull with new double console and new stainless tank fitted .i allready had everything needed to build it up and get it water ready the idea was a cheap way into a newish boat . as with all good intentions my idea soon went by the wayside .i kept going to fit parts i had and thinking thats a bit worn so bought a new one instead ![bang](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif) . even my 20 hour mercury 100 went when i came across a brand new in the box mariner 115 for £6.5k and the guy offered me £4k px for my 100 ![dance](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/dance.gif) .anyway point is you can save cash if you do the work yourself my boat is now 100% a year 2020 and it stands me at about £16500
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This is stage 2 of obfuscating the other half. Stage 1 - buy an old RIB, kit it out with new bits. Stage 2 - buy a kit comprising of everything you didn't buy new in Stage 1 and swap over upgrading as required.
I think this is probably a good route for DIY'ers.
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05 March 2023, 11:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucester
Boat name: Lunasea
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzi 140
MMSI: 232005050
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,993
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I think it all depends whether you enjoy the sort of work involved in a project, or want to learn the skills in the building / electrics / engineering to do this.
I think boat projects are as much about creating something and being a hobby / labour of love as much as it is having a working boat to own.
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05 March 2023, 15:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,293
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastasfox
Console yourself with the fact that your ribcraft new STARTS at £32,000.
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And if you really needing a lift then i can tell you i had Southampton Boat show ,face to face quotation for bog standard 585 from the ribcraft sales guy (who did give me a pen and baseball cap ![ROFL](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/likeadrain.gif) ) and confirmed on email that the 585 with suzuki 140 was .................£50k plus VAT ..............and i am even not sure he wasnt suggesting it was made in Dubai and ass in uk
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05 March 2023, 16:49
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,913
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastasfox
Scary because the new one's are expensive or scary because your project getting up there with the price of a new one :-)
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I was doing the maths on my project the other night and if I’m brutally honest I could’ve bought a very nice secondhand 585 for the same price but it wouldn’t be to the spec of my one.
Pretty much everything is brand new. I also know the boat inside out so should there be an issue I know where to look.
That knowledge and peace of mind is worth a lot to me in the areas I cruise.
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06 March 2023, 09:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Boat name: Matchless
Make: Ribcraft 6.8m
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 3.4l 225 V6
MMSI: 232028056
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 287
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A1an
I was doing the maths on my project the other night and if I’m brutally honest I could’ve bought a very nice secondhand 585 for the same price but it wouldn’t be to the spec of my one.
Pretty much everything is brand new. I also know the boat inside out so should there be an issue I know where to look.
That knowledge and peace of mind is worth a lot to me in the areas I cruise.
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Your rebuild looks sweet - yes there are some cheap and tumbling rib prices out there even for Ribcraft’s these days
As you say though yours looks immaculate and its what you want which is the point after all
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06 March 2023, 10:09
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#34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Boat name: Wakey
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 75 2 stroke
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 566
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Orwell boy
And if you really needing a lift then i can tell you i had Southampton Boat show ,face to face quotation for bog standard 585 from the ribcraft sales guy (who did give me a pen and baseball cap ![ROFL](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/likeadrain.gif) ) and confirmed on email that the 585 with suzuki 140 was .................£50k plus VAT ..............and i am even not sure he wasnt suggesting it was made in Dubai and ass in uk
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Wow....that was some commission lol
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06 March 2023, 10:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Boat name: Wakey
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 75 2 stroke
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 566
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A1an
I was doing the maths on my project the other night and if I’m brutally honest I could’ve bought a very nice secondhand 585 for the same price but it wouldn’t be to the spec of my one.
Pretty much everything is brand new. I also know the boat inside out so should there be an issue I know where to look.
That knowledge and peace of mind is worth a lot to me in the areas I cruise.
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And there is the fact that unless your buying from a dealer you never know what your really getting.
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06 March 2023, 19:04
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,927
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastasfox
And there is the fact that unless your buying from a dealer you never know what your really getting.
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What makes you think buying from a dealer you know what your getting? There are possibly as many unscrupulous dealers as there are honest ones. The problem with unscrupulous dealers is they know how to disguise or cover up potential faults long enough to get past any warranty period. I'm with A1an in that I'd rather have a boat I've done myself than one from a dealer which is a totaly unknown prospect. Doing a boat yourself and knowing it inside out is worth far more than a dealers warranty even if the costs are the same.
Sent from my SM-G950F using RIB Net mobile app
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06 March 2023, 20:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
What makes you think buying from a dealer you know what your getting? There are possibly as many unscrupulous dealers as there are honest ones. The problem with unscrupulous dealers is they know how to disguise or cover up potential faults long enough to get past any warranty period. I'm with A1an in that I'd rather have a boat I've done myself than one from a dealer which is a totaly unknown prospect. Doing a boat yourself and knowing it inside out is worth far more than a dealers warranty even if the costs are the same.
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^^^^^wot he said [emoji106]
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08 March 2023, 16:04
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: no name
Make: Hydro force
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 231
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I've bought a second hand 7.4m ribtec rib needing work done to it new tubes,deck, engine and upgrading electronics. It will cost me about 25k, I looked at ribs about that price and all had bits needing done tubes looking ok. So I went done the refurb route because it rib will be like new when finished with the equipment I want.
Cheers Kevin
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