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29 July 2018, 22:23
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Autosmart G101 for cleaning tubes
Some of you may remember me asking about Toluene for cleaning tubes, I was very dubious and didn’t end up using it!
I since found a product that seems to work fantastic, as per title, Autosmart G101 non caustic, non silicone or solvent based cleaner. A simple wipe with diluted product 5/1 and a wipe with a micro fibre cloth has worked wonders.
Maybe you guys already know about it or can advise if I shouldn’t use it, I’ve tried to attach images, hope it worked! Let me know your opinions.....
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30 July 2018, 06:01
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Looks like it has done a good job
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30 July 2018, 15:43
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That looks good, where do you buy it?
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30 July 2018, 15:52
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The Autosmart rep calls into our work from time to time, one of the guys bought it last time he was in to use on the van door panels ( awesome job! 1 spray and a wipe with a rag, comes up like new, no sheen nor is it dull looking )
So I bought it and read the specifications and thought it would work on the tubes!
Turns out it’s fantastic, very little work involved, just curious if the chemicals will attack the seam glue.
I just soaked the rag and not the tubes to try and minimise any unwanted affect. Seems to be fine![emoji16]
Some vehicle detailing specialists may stock it or it’s also available on line. Think the gallon cost me £20
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30 July 2018, 16:44
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Originally Posted by Nordburg2001
as per title, Autosmart G101 non caustic, non silicone or solvent based cleaner....
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Good Lord!?!
It's ingredient list suggests that it is a Sodium hydroxide based solution. Basically it's pre-mixed Caustic Soda. Or look at it another way - you've cleaned your RIB with concentrated drain cleaner!
BTW, I've noticed a lot of caustic soda based cleaners on the market - all carefully labelled as Non-acid based or lo-cal or gluten free or whatever....
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30 July 2018, 16:52
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Oh![emoji50]
This is exactly the reason for posting here.....
I wasn’t sure as it specifically says for use on vinyl, rubber, plastics, fabric etc ...
I thought for sure I was on a winner!
Is drain cleaner not good for tubes then??
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30 July 2018, 17:02
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According to this guide as to what chemicals are safe to use on Hypalon, sodium hydroxide gets an “A” rating right up to 80% neat, suggesting that it’s ok to use?
The G101 I used is highly diluted.
I really have no clue about Hypalon and the chemicals that would perish it, any input from you guys is greatly appreciated,.
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30 July 2018, 19:10
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give poly marine a ring or rib shop look at their data sheets on the cleaning products caustic soda should be ok if washed off after just use decent PPE.
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30 July 2018, 19:23
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Cheers Jeff, will do! [emoji106]
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30 July 2018, 22:21
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Been doing a little research and up to now every avenue has given the same results.
All showing that Sodium Hydroxide is safe to use on Hypalon. I really hope this is the case as it’s extremely effective and easy to use. Please chirp in if you have any other concerns regarding the product on tubes. I’m eager to get cleaning but worried about the consequences if I’m too hasty, cheers guys!
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30 July 2018, 22:48
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All showing that Sodium Hydroxide is safe to use on Hypalon.
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And OK with glue as well?
I'm being a smart arse BTW, as I know a lot of the sh1t we use on our RIBs has "caustic" in it (cheap TFR, etc.). I think quick use and thorough removal is key.
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30 July 2018, 22:52
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That is what I’m worried about!
I just soaked the rag and didn’t go mad near the seams on the 2 panels I touched. Is there a specific glue I should be checking against the chemical?
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30 July 2018, 22:57
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I think sometimes we think caustic, aggressive , acidic is fritening but we forget neutralise wash off re apply wash off it stops the reaction so if it works and you can stop it sorted OMO
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30 July 2018, 22:58
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It does say to rinse off in fairness.
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30 July 2018, 23:11
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It does say to rinse off in fairness.
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I just think me included we over think things if you apply anything once diluted it stops its effectiveness so for me you applied by cloth got the result you required wash off sorted if you did it every week maybe a long term problem.
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30 July 2018, 23:15
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I’ll not hold you to it but that was my initial thoughts, it’s so effective I think I’ll give it a go! If nothing else I can be remembered on here as the guy that melted his RIB![emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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31 July 2018, 09:48
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good info says in PPE not to use on rubber gloves 0.3 mm personally i would use it then wash off immediately most kitchen cleaners have caustic soda in them
https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chem...hydroxide.html
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