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17 October 2011, 11:07
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Country: Luxembourg
Town: Hesperange
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 75HP
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Avon Searider 5.4 engine
Hello,
I need to change my current engine (2 stroke Force 85 HP) for the new one.
I have a question for you. What size of engine would be the best for my RIB?
I went for our local shop and guys told me 75 HP 2 stroke might be little bit to small.
What you recommend? 90 HP? 115 HP? 2 or 4 stroke?
Thank you.
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17 October 2011, 11:46
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Depends what you want to do with it. A 50 HP 2 stoke will move a SR5.4 quite happily but not put quite the same grin on your face that the 85 would have. IIRC then the SR experts on here regard the "perfect" engine for a 5.4 as a 90HP 2 stroke.
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17 October 2011, 11:52
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dun Laoghaire
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zubol
Hello,
I need to change my current engine (2 stroke Force 85 HP) for the new one.
I have a question for you. What size of engine would be the best for my RIB?
I went for our local shop and guys told me 75 HP 2 stroke might be little bit to small.
What you recommend? 90 HP? 115 HP? 2 or 4 stroke?
Thank you.
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I have driven the clubs 5.4 woth a 60hp 4 stroke Yamaha. Its fine with a small load but sluggish when loaded. I personally would have gone for something bigger...perhaps 80..
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17 October 2011, 12:12
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
...the SR experts on here regard the "perfect" engine for a 5.4 as a 90HP 2 stroke Yam.
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17 October 2011, 12:35
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
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I very nearly wrote that...
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17 October 2011, 12:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
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From what I've read on here the Yam 90 is the perfect engine with the Twatsoo 90 following it.
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17 October 2011, 14:06
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Member
Country: Luxembourg
Town: Hesperange
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 75HP
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 170
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What you think about Yam 115 V4? it is not too much?
and what about Mercury 75HP 2 stroke. Is it really too small?
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17 October 2011, 19:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Enfield/Switzerland
Boat name: Zonneschijn II/Vixen
Make: Shakespeare/Avon
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evin' 175 DI /Yam 90
MMSI: 235055605
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zubol
What you think about Yam 115 V4? it is not too much?
and what about Mercury 75HP 2 stroke. Is it really too small?
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max is normally 90hp, but some were rated to 115 apparently
75 should be ok, although maybe a little slow especially if well loaded
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17 October 2011, 21:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,069
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I would think a 75hp will be fine. I had a 90hp Mariner on mine and didn't often think it was in any way underpowered.
Most of the time I ran around at mid to high 20's kts and 75hp would have been plenty.
However, having said that, if I were speccing an engine I would by choice have a 90.
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18 October 2011, 10:56
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Member
Country: Luxembourg
Town: Hesperange
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 75HP
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 170
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What weight are we talking about? what is the max for the engine?
I am asking because 2 stroke Yamaha 90HP is 118kg where for instance Honda 90HP is 163kg
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18 October 2011, 14:02
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: groningen
Boat name: tess, searanger
Make: sailer, avon 5,4
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard, suzuki 90
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 96
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90hp suzi
I have a 90hp suzi driving my SR5,4 and know lots of people who sail them it's very fuel efficient super and quiet (has a lock on it to prevent re starting!!!)
14'x21' prop should do the trick really well.
Engine weighs 158kg
Yam 2 stroke 90 is super to but nog new available and i would make the same decision again.
see on Avon Searider - Home for few pics (look at member Rob Ubels)
115 is possible to faster but you hear it guzzling the fuel. (almost above the engine noise)
130 should go to but to crazy and to fast wouldnt do both
just take a 90 4s suzi or 90 2s yamaha
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19 October 2011, 22:21
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Santa Barbara, CA
Boat name: Searider 4m + 5.4m
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 62
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I just repowered my 5.4 this summer with a new Yamaha F70LA 4 stroke. I couln't be happier with the engine as it is lighter and smaller than the old 2 stroke merc 70 i replaced. I have a pilothouse on my boat and even with 2 people, surfboards and gear for the weekend, i still hit 29-30kts which is plenty for ocean running. The engine is quiet and quite good on fuel, i get 6-7 nm/gallon.
I read yamaha redesigned this engine as there are a lot of boats out there that were conceived for a 70 2stroke that suck with the extra weight of a 4 stroke, so they pulled tons of weight out.
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19 October 2011, 22:25
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Country: USA
Town: Santa Barbara, CA
Boat name: Searider 4m + 5.4m
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
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21 October 2011, 21:10
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Member
Country: Sweden
Boat name: -
Make: XS 545
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 70hp 4stroke
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 34
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That weight was the reason I choose Yam 70 for my new XS 530
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03 June 2024, 21:53
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Member
Country: USA
Town: San Diego
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 52
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Been running a 50 HP 2 Stroke Tohatsu on my 5.4 50 miles offshore in Southern California fishing for big Blue Fin Tuna Yes I get a lot of crazy looks but getting pulled around by a 50-100+ lb BFT is hella fun.
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04 June 2024, 06:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Brum
Boat name: UTV
Make: Bombard Aerotec
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke 25hp
MMSI: 235933026
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 739
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Originally Posted by SurfnRide
Been running a 50 HP 2 Stroke Tohatsu on my 5.4 50 miles offshore in Southern California fishing for big Blue Fin Tuna Yes I get a lot of crazy looks but getting pulled around by a 50-100+ lb BFT is hella fun.
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Sounds fun.......a picture would help tell the story. What do you do with the BFT once its caught, keep it,.eat it,.sell it?
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04 June 2024, 14:58
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Country: USA
Town: San Diego
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 52
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I have a really big reliable kill bag on board packed with ice. Bleed the tuna and then bag it. Cut the tail and head off if its too long for the bag wrap a garbage bag around the ends to keep the freshwater ice/water off the meat as much as possible.
I bring it home and fillet it up. Give the fish a quick saltwater wash and pat dry before vacuum sealing the meat in 4 mm bags and freeze it.
Give a lot to friends and do sushi rolling parties for the 1st month I have it. Then it turns into searing grade tuna.
I'm almost 50 and don't document too much stuff but I'll see what I can dig up pic wise.
I have a 24 gallon aux tank behind the driver seat that I built a slip over 2nd chair setup so I can go with 1 friend. 8 gallon tank in front of the steering column. Has a flip up bimini if the sun gets too intense and comms. Do lobster hooping and spear fishing with it also.
It's a fun little boat. Hits about 23 mph wide open on a flat day. Bought it for $3K off Craigslist with the Pacific trailer.
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04 June 2024, 17:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Brum
Boat name: UTV
Make: Bombard Aerotec
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke 25hp
MMSI: 235933026
Join Date: May 2003
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Sounds a blast, how far do you travel? Huge amount of fuel to carry.
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04 June 2024, 17:52
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Country: USA
Town: San Diego
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 52
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We launch out of Point Loma San Diego and work the US and Mexican banks. 425, 43, 302 etc... Figure we probably have around 175 mile range. Maybe a bit more if we go easy on the throttle. I'll run it out between 30-40ish miles and then work the banks. Leaves me enough fuel to feel safe.
Just keep an eye on bloody decks and go where the bite is reported at. One of my friends kids is a deckhand working on becoming a Captain so he can feed us what he is hearing from the Captains on the cattle boats. Get a little ahead of the bloody decks/internet chasers.
https://imgur.com/a/bmldMXt
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04 June 2024, 17:52
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Member
Country: USA
Town: San Diego
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 52
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Delete.... figured out how to post the link on my last post
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