Avon searider sealing compund

mike-stgt · 27 January 2008, 09:21

Hi there , my name is Mike and I am new to this RIP Net.
I am 46 Y old and living in Stuttgart / Germany.
My first Rib is a Zodiac Pro 7 with a Mariner 40HP.
Now i was fallen in love with a Avon searider 5,4 that i picked up last friday in Italy.
So far,my question is if anybody knows the sealing compound that was used for sealing the seam outside? I think the original glue is Bostik 2404 .

Greetings from Germany
Mike

yorfuoj · 27 January 2008, 17:18

it should be Bostik 2402.
But you could use NE486, or NE662, or 113M as well

mike-stgt · 27 January 2008, 18:39

Thanks for answer.
Bostik 2402 or the new UV resistand is the glue, but the grey sealing compound they used to cover the seam outside??
Does somebody know?

Mike

jyasaki · 28 January 2008, 07:56

Mike;

Not sure, but I think what you're seeing is tape applied to the edges of the seam. Adds another layer of glued material. It's not a tape as in self-adhesive tape, but is a narrow strip of fabric glued over the seam.

jky

mike-stgt · 06 February 2008, 20:38

Hi There, it was not a piece of hypalon glued on the seam like they do today, but a sealing compound
Greetings from Stuttgart
Mike.

Endeavour · 06 February 2008, 20:48

Looks to me like the inpressions of the baffle on the side of the tube...

mike-stgt · 06 February 2008, 21:05

Hi, it is all arround the outer seam. They are covered with this compound.
The inner seams are normaly glued and not sealed.

Mike

mike-stgt · 06 February 2008, 21:08

The inner parts are with open edges of the seam.

Nos4r2 · 09 February 2008, 02:31

Have you got a better quality photograph of the seam?

mike-stgt · 09 February 2008, 21:01

Hi , i`pick up a better picture tomorrow.

But it is a sealing compound in grey, thats over the seam on the outside.
My first profession was carbody work and i see that it is sealed and lightly
worked with a small brush.

matt h · 10 February 2008, 16:44

is the stuff like Grey Sika flex that does not go off??

mike-stgt · 10 February 2008, 21:46

Hi again,
like you see on the pics. it is some sealing material , worked with a paintbrush.
It is the same grey as the tubes are.

Nos4r2 · 10 February 2008, 23:23

I'm certain that what I can see there is seam tape.

ian parkes · 11 February 2008, 01:19

looks like a thin tape to me too could the brushmarks be showing through from where the glue was brushed on .

I did also think about that latex / rubber coating that is used on wetsuit knees and edges of kayak spraydecks etc . I had a hypalon spraydeck with it on the edges and it was realy tough

jyasaki · 11 February 2008, 16:22

Ian;

If it's tough, and wears well, it won't be latex. Latex is very sensitive to oils, UV, and ozone, and readily falls apart under any or all of those conditions.

jky

Limey Linda · 11 February 2008, 16:30

Probably this stuff. It is very tough. I have used it with Very good results.

Google West Marine do a search for 348998 from their home page

mike-stgt · 11 February 2008, 20:02

Yes, this sounds good.
It must be a produkt like this.
I try to get it and use it.

Mike

boatster_sr4 · 11 February 2008, 20:31

My experience with liquid EPDM is that it is not good against abrasion. It will wear and peal readily. The sell the stuff for roofs and UV protective applications but it will not be strong enough or elastic enough against a light abrasion. Do a search on Google for "liquid epdm". Its the same stuff.

From what I've seen with my Avon ribs. That is a hypalon seam tape.

The liquid epdm is NOT what you are looking for.

ian parkes · 11 February 2008, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyasaki

Ian;

If it's tough, and wears well, it won't be latex. Latex is very sensitive to oils, UV, and ozone, and readily falls apart under any or all of those conditions.

jky

I say latex / rubber because thats what it feels like soft rubber , but its not I guess ,
whatever the stuff is that found on wetsuit knees etc these days .

Nos4r2 · 11 February 2008, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by boatster_sr4

From what I've seen with my Avon ribs. That is a hypalon seam tape.

The liquid epdm is NOT what you are looking for.

Agreed. Here's a pic of the same stuff, falling off even more.(link) It's clearly hypalon tape. It's also what it looks like on my Avon,and my last Avon (except it's not falling off those!)