bad colours for ribs

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

...... or maybe the more exciting and traditional scheme like Mollers' old one.

Roy alway likes to be a little bit 'whoa' and a little bit 'whey' with his boat colours. He went for 'Dog's Knob' red with your's preceded by 'Flume ride' blue on the previous 7m.

[tony t]

Originally Posted by catrib

Hi guys,

Im buying a new inflatable boat off a company, and I have a wide choice of colours to choose from. Ive seen a picture of an all black boat and it looks really well. My question is is it a bad colour to choose because of its heat absorbancey. Will the tubes be more likely to suffer accidental over inflation or will the material break down quicker with the sun rays.

Anybody with a black or very dark colour rib with any experiance of such problems.

Thanks

i have black tubes and have no probs.. and your right they do look nice go for it..

[kerny]

I must admit that ribs in black look fab especially this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueixf...eature=related

Although I don't rate them shock mitigation seats if thats what you end up looking like after prolonged use.

[gotchiguy]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Roy alway likes to be a little bit 'whoa' and a little bit 'whey' with his boat colours.

Bit of leg always makes me go 'whoa' and a bit 'whey'

[martini]

Originally Posted by kerny

I must admit that ribs in black look fab especially this one

I'm well in to black an all, predictably.

But I would recommend PRV's, in any colour tube but particularly black.

Grey with a splash of black ie wear patches etc I think is the most sensible option whilst keeping with a theme

[Downhilldai]

Originally Posted by Mollers

'Dog's Knob' red

[BogMonster]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

We store Into the Red deflated

Why?

[gotchiguy]

Originally Posted by BogMonster

Why?

For two reasons I can think of right now.....

A) All that lovely space around her in that pic above has now gone. The boatyard had 3000m2 space but the lease came up so they've had to move next door into less than 1000m2. 'cos we're a fairly longstanding customer and we bought our last boat from him, he has managed to get us inside, but whereas before they were 50+ boats inside his old place there are less than 15 now and they're all packed in like sardines. I'll see if they have a pic on their site of the new space. Nearly all the boats are kept outside now, and especially if he shrink wraps it it'll be fine, but at least for the first few years GD reckons the extra cost of keeping it inside will be worth it by keeping it nice. For interest have included a google maps pic. They've moved from the red to the blue so you'll understand space is now at a premium especially indoors

B) Habit. It was a practicality with the Pro 'cos we put it down the back of the garage (2 car garage one in front of the other) and so in winter it was more practical to leave the tubes deflated to get to the stuff stored behind it, bikes etc.

[Poly]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

B) Habit. It was a practicality with the Pro 'cos we put it down the back of the garage (2 car garage one in front of the other) and so in winter it was more practical to leave the tubes deflated to get to the stuff stored behind it, bikes etc.

No mice or rats round your way or in his shed then

Even shrink wrapped I'd want my tubes inflated not only to keep out vermin but because a carelessly manoeuvred trailer is more likely to bounce off, and my gut feel tells me that creases and folds in deflated tubes (even if you can't see any are the baffles etc inside all sitting flat) are likely to be problem areas in the future.

[gotchiguy]

Originally Posted by Polwart

No mice or rats round your way or in his shed then

Luckily not, the garage is essentially a concrete box with a door too tight for mice to enter. Well, we leave the SIB and warps and all the clobber for the mooring laid out on the floor and never had any issues. Don't think he's got any anyway, and besides, she lives on dollies so assuming the mice can climb up the vertical steel and navigate up the slippery GRP hull whilst upside down, and then lift off the very tightly fitted cover I don't suppose much could happen really?

Originally Posted by Polwart

Even shrink wrapped I'd want my tubes inflated not only to keep out vermin but because a carelessly manoeuvred trailer is more likely to bounce off,

Good point actually, might give that further thought.

Originally Posted by Polwart

creases and folds in deflated tubes (even if you can't see any are the baffles etc inside all sitting flat) are likely to be problem areas in the future.

By deflated I mean there is still a fair bit of air in them. They're not completely like absolutely empty... just.... limp and flacid TBH there's probably enough air in them so absorb any impacts anyway so I'm not going to worry. Besides, if it gets hit with enough force to do some damage it'll fall off the dollies and there'll be alot more to think about than just damaged tubes. But I try not to think about that

[GordyP]

I have black tubes with grey wear patches in a matt finish, never noticed any great problems with cleaning or salt stains, I give the tubes a quick rinse after each trip. Don't have overpressure valves fitted, but i do let a bit of air out to be on the safe side.

[Sveinki]

I think you should consider bright color like yellow or red, it's more likely that the rescue team will find you if you get in trouble out there in the dark.

Be safe
Sveinki

[Rory S]

I have Black tubes and I'm in westport!! Never had any problems always pumped hard and as said washed down after each use they will be perfect.

If you need anything Look me up. (RS Marine) ;-)

[gotchiguy]

Originally Posted by Sveinki

I think you should consider bright color like yellow or red, it's more likely that the rescue team will find you if you get in trouble out there in the dark.

Must say that I'm guna disagree with you. In trouble in the dark surely black tubes would be an advantage? Now that rescue teams (and Martini) have moved from good old rods and cones to FLIR technology etc surely the greater heat signature that the black material will have will be beneficial, since it will show up stronger on the display. The lower radiation output of the red material would quickly become the same temperature as the sea I would have thought.

[nitrox]

the black shark skin tubes are great, keeps clean and cool, even seagull muc washes straight of. give ribquest a ring they know there ribs neal

[chewy]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

Must say that I'm guna disagree with you. In trouble in the dark surely black tubes would be an advantage? Now that rescue teams (and Martini) have moved from good old rods and cones to FLIR technology etc surely the greater heat signature that the black material will have will be beneficial, since it will show up stronger on the display. The lower radiation output of the red material would quickly become the same temperature as the sea I would have thought.

You really do talk shite some times.

[Poly]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

Must say that I'm guna disagree with you. In trouble in the dark surely black tubes would be an advantage? Now that rescue teams (and Martini) have moved from good old rods and cones to FLIR technology etc surely the greater heat signature that the black material will have will be beneficial, since it will show up stronger on the display. The lower radiation output of the red material would quickly become the same temperature as the sea I would have thought.

Me thinks your grasp of GCSE physics has over looked some important issues:

(1) Its unlikely that when you are in real distress at night your tubes are the hottest part of your rib. That is probably you, or your nav lights (unless the engine is still running or you have a fire!). If life threatening distress its probably not been that hot anyway - and certainly not by night.

(2) black emits better so might give a stronger signature on FLIR, but consequently cools down quicker (that energy has to come from somewhere) so lasts less time than a less emitting colour.

(3) if its really gone Pete Tong then you'll be "gel coat up" or you are totally swamped and taking waves over the top and your tubes are pretty much at sea temp.

EDIT - Chewy put it more succinctly than me!

[martini]

Originally Posted by chewy

You really do talk shite some times.

I was just about to say those exact words

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by martini

I was just about to say those exact words

Jardon with zits.

[piranha580]

My new rib is all black, hull and tubes.. I got pressure release valves fitted when it was being made and there hasn't been much deviation in the tube pressure yet over the long winter.. My boat is in Dublin so I don't think you'd have any trouble in Mayo ! 
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